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drray23

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115. you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 03:54 PM

Mar 2017

This has been widely reported had you been paying attention during the campaign. In many occasions, during debates or interviews Bernie criticized the party. This has gone on for years even before he was running for president. Being an independent was a matter of pride (and still is) for him. Its true that Bernie aligns with the democratic party on many issues and vote with the democrats most of the time but he always has been a strong critic. The only time he was actually a democrat was during the campaign so that he could use the party apparatus to launch his bid for the white house. As soon as he lost, he went back to his independent status.

Here is an article from politico which discusses that, along with references :

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3iQ6gwxVX

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Bernie Sanders remains one of Americas most popular politicians [View all] Calculating Mar 2017 OP

I love Sanders and Warren and the ACA! Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #1

Same here!!! RKP5637 Mar 2017 #38

he has been pissing me off since the election Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #2

I think I'll write him a letter and tell him what he clearly doesn't know.. JHan Mar 2017 #5

Is Bernie the BEST person for the Democratic Party's "Outreach" mission? I think we can do better. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #8

Who is your pick then? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #11

Keith Ellison? At least he's a Democrat and doesn't trash talk the Democratic Party KittyWampus Mar 2017 #20

Are you saying Sanders trash talks the Dem Party? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #23

Bernie Quotes: KittyWampus Mar 2017 #25

Can you provide proof of these "quotes"? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #27

google is a great resource. JHan Mar 2017 #34

The quotes are so precise, I prefer the poster to prove their statements... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #43

I googled the quotes, it's like the first result. Jeez. JHan Mar 2017 #45

Ok, copy&paste the link then.... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #46

steups. JHan Mar 2017 #47

I have no idea what you wrote... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #48

Steups is a west indian expression, and very handy: JHan Mar 2017 #50

Well, then, this confirms the quotes are not true... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #51

All this exchange proves is that you're afraid of googling a quote. JHan Mar 2017 #53

No, it means you don't want to provide a link to prove the quotes... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #58

but but think what you could be doing .. you could be googling the quote .. JHan Mar 2017 #59

you have no idea what you are talking about. drray23 Mar 2017 #115

Mahalo drray Cha Mar 2017 #192

It is true radical noodle Mar 2017 #158

Indeed they are, which is why Democrats do their own homework, and don't make assumptions synergie Mar 2017 #200

You made the assertion, it's up to you to provide proof. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #278

In today's day and age with search engines, if one can't easily find "proof".... George II Mar 2017 #69

Sorry George, no search presents any original citation for the quote... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #219

I did a google search on just the first quote, got this result: George II Mar 2017 #221

As I said, there is no *original* citation for the quotes... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #223

53,100 instances where the quote exists, you say it doesn't. George II Mar 2017 #226

Sure the quote 'exists' - show me where an article with the original quote originated... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #227

Not my job. Not everything that someone says is reported in an "article".... George II Mar 2017 #244

I have been a Democrat all my life... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #291

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Ok, I get it... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #295

Just using your own expectation to show how sometimes not providing direct "proof".... George II Mar 2017 #296

Oh my god - you think personal information is the same as public info... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #297

So which quote are looking for an original citation for? synergie Mar 2017 #316

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Here you go Motownman78 Mar 2017 #167

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A quick google shows us: ehrnst Mar 2017 #325

You've made your point very well! My recommendation to you ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #37

I see you could not be bothered to answer my question as to who you prefer to be the voice of Dems.. Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #52

You're right. I couldn't be bothered. It was intentional. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #61

DU doesn't, but we have visitors who like to drop in and engage in rather rude synergie Mar 2017 #202

So, when a DU asks a simple legitimate question, it is 'rude'? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #217

When someone responds rudely demanding that everyone else do their homeowrk synergie Mar 2017 #245

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It's also comon practice to accept the information given, especially when it's described to you synergie Mar 2017 #315

You've made a common mistake TiC.. Kentonio Mar 2017 #323

TIC sounds rather green. And might not last long. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #327

Al Franken. Gets stuff done, and doesn't require rallies, book tours and a PAC. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #328

According to this poll, yes. dogman Mar 2017 #89

Yeah: "Come try our pizza. It's horrible. We make the worst pizza ever. Buy some." NurseJackie Mar 2017 #94

Or "Under new management" dogman Mar 2017 #114

So you're saying that the Democratic Party is corrupt? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #123

No, some Party leadership is. Just seeing clickbait now about Donna Brazile admitting wrongdoing. dogman Mar 2017 #128

Which party leadership? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #145

Bernie's not selling pizza or real estate. dogman Mar 2017 #154

Human nature is what it is, and a successful "Outreach" ambassador would know how to... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #163

Your "outreach" isn't working either. dogman Mar 2017 #171

It is what it is. You're finding clever ways to insult me and to insinuate ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #201

From Ebenezer Baptist Church on MLK Day to deep red West Virginia... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #101

In my opinion, his "broad appeal" and "popularity" do not compensate for a negative sales pitch... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #106

The Democratic Party is pretty much CiCi's right now. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #120

He is consistent, and that is what is valuable. You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth JCanete Mar 2017 #124

Anyone who thinks some criticism isn't in order needs to remember who won in November. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #137

Equating ostriches with DINO's is a disservice on ostriches nolabels Mar 2017 #231

My bad. I apologize to ostriches. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #233

Forgive me for only just noticing you're back. aikoaiko Mar 2017 #283

In a word.. NO! Cha Mar 2017 #181

We can do better. Al Franken's optimism and wit and wisdom would be a welcome change. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #206

Yes, Senator Al Franken is very popular Cha Mar 2017 #213

There are plenty of cheerleaders who speak eloquently of the party's gloriousness aikoaiko Mar 2017 #285

Tha's nice for the "disenchanted or cynical". If there were actually more of those "voters"... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #289

I think you may be underestimating the numbers of "disenchanted or cynical" aikoaiko Mar 2017 #310

And I think you may be overestimating. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #311

He is very unpopular among black voters who liquid diamond Mar 2017 #18

we don't count. And it isn't that I despise Sanders.. far from it. JHan Mar 2017 #21

Yes. That is a problem liquid diamond Mar 2017 #24

I'll also never forget how Dolores Huerta was treated. JHan Mar 2017 #33

And how John Lewis was treated. nt SunSeeker Mar 2017 #40

I understand. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #41

the whole WWC suffering spiel could have turned me off forever.. JHan Mar 2017 #44

People on both sides of these arguments are way too trigger happy with the alert button. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #97

Unless they are an obvious troll, liquid diamond Mar 2017 #104

totally agree. Have never and will never use that feature. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #118

Why do you suppose BainsBane Mar 2017 #259

thanks for the question and the answer isn't pretty... JHan Mar 2017 #275

Why exactly do black voters hate Bernie anyway? Calculating Mar 2017 #55

They don't. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #65

No one said black people hated Bernie Sanders. JHan Mar 2017 #70

Please refer to your post #21. JudyM Mar 2017 #90

I'll point you to this: JHan Mar 2017 #95

Ok, but that doesn't address your post in this thread. I'm not looking for justification of your JudyM Mar 2017 #98

why I shared that post: JHan Mar 2017 #100

I hear you and can only respond that the edge continues, taken from the viewpoint of those who feel JudyM Mar 2017 #132

LOL! One thread does not a messageboard make. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #108

I've no clue, I only joined September last year. JHan Mar 2017 #110

Then it's probably a good idea... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #147

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Yeah, LOL, Russia is such a joke! R B Garr Mar 2017 #172

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Don't worry, Lindsey Graham and John McCain will come to the rescue on Russia. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #234

Surely you've heard the victim rhetoric, tho. Even R B Garr Mar 2017 #247

Yes! It's wonderful to see actual progressives take the helm! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #162

Um, no one is holding the working class in contempt, but as a resident from one of those synergie Mar 2017 #243

The "white working class"... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #248

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You miss the point completely BainsBane Mar 2017 #307

Yes, it's been great here! Many of the R B Garr Mar 2017 #149

Agree and that's good.. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #173

I think his appeal as an independent is more important than joining the party. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #174

And that's a good point.. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #186

I don't care who gets them to vote for Democrats, if they're effective they're welcome. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #191

Same experience here.. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #271

+1000 PotatoChip Mar 2017 #300

Not falling for it. Enjoy your Saturday. eom liquid diamond Mar 2017 #71

Look at the events following netroots BainsBane Mar 2017 #260

Sanders was less popular among *older* black voters. QC Mar 2017 #72

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Truth. Google it. JudyM Mar 2017 #93

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It does seem that some of our friends are QC Mar 2017 #88

It's like they want Bernie to fail. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #91

this is not about "Bernie".. it should never be about an individual.. JHan Mar 2017 #102

Actually this thread and the posts rehashing the primary are all about Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #107

Yes I'm thrilled that the *Message* gets out.. JHan Mar 2017 #117

What a lovely strawman! Did you make it yourself? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #126

Sure happy to: JHan Mar 2017 #127

Can you point out where you were asked to write a letter to Bernie? Thanks! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #131

sigh, it was an offhand comment I made earlier up in the thread. JHan Mar 2017 #133

Again if people want to freak out every time the party is criticized that's their prerogative. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #135

uhm JHan Mar 2017 #136

Why should he lie and say he's happy about the way things are? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #139

Who wants citizens United reversed? JHan Mar 2017 #143

Interesting. It's almost as though you believe criticism isn't warranted. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #150

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You know JHan Mar 2017 #161

Except you didn't explain why his criticism is "inane and needless". beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #165

I did, several times. JHan Mar 2017 #176

No, you really didn't. You just characterized his criticism as needless and expected me to agree. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #177

Lmao why the caps, I'm calm as fk JHan Mar 2017 #178

Because that's how it appears. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #182

Uh huh JHan Mar 2017 #184

Great response. Notice how no one from his R B Garr Mar 2017 #230

thing is my points weren't difficult to understand.. JHan Mar 2017 #232

Your points are excellent and not hard to understand. R B Garr Mar 2017 #249

That reads like a tweet tkmorris Mar 2017 #254

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Here's an example BainsBane Mar 2017 #318

Like some people freak out anytime anyone suggests BainsBane Mar 2017 #299

Collaboration ... you know, you're right. I'd never thought of it that way. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #303

Oh, I've called them Vichy for some time BainsBane Mar 2017 #306

This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Mar 2017 #175

Sometimes, criticism of him is dismissed with false accusations of "refighting the primary"... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #119

That's not unreasonable at all. JHan Mar 2017 #122

Some of his liquid diamond Mar 2017 #205

It's maddening. Sometimes you have to talk in code and say things without saying them. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #207

I know what you mean. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #216

Bernie is joining us. BainsBane Mar 2017 #262

Preach! NurseJackie Mar 2017 #263

Lol! He's been leading along with many others. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #264

Your top down view of activism is revealing BainsBane Mar 2017 #265

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Throwing out unhelpful comments about the Democratic party doesn't exactly "support our efforts" KittyWampus Mar 2017 #267

That's your characterization, not mine. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #269

I was discussing the resistance BainsBane Mar 2017 #272

You haven't seen him mention those issues? Interesting cognitive bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #274

Ah, so criticizing Bernie is a no-no, but on this R B Garr Mar 2017 #276

Well, actually he was. synergie Mar 2017 #279

I'm a 22 year old black woman.. . JHan Mar 2017 #92

You're right--younger people are mostly disengaged from politics, QC Mar 2017 #111

Agreed on most of those points.. JHan Mar 2017 #113

Like you, I hope getting a good look at conservatism with the friendly mask QC Mar 2017 #121

Yes! politics affects everything. JHan Mar 2017 #125

is his approval rating low among black voters? nt JCanete Mar 2017 #85

Turns out PA, WI and MI are also necessary to win elections. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2017 #155

Right? Who knew? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #159

LOL And the anti-Bernie crew... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #164

Unfortunately gerrymandering and voter suppression will continue to be a problem in 2018 and 2020. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #166

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Trump's victory proved we needed PA, MI and WI... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #187

If it makes you happy liquid diamond Mar 2017 #196

I tuned out all of them, including Nate Silver. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #203

I think that may be an overstatement. aikoaiko Mar 2017 #284

That's too bad. KPN Mar 2017 #26

I agree w/you! nt jrthin Mar 2017 #80

I have a very real concern that his words hit the mark. I'm not sure why we keep adhering to a JCanete Mar 2017 #83

what bothers me about Sanders thinking the Dem party is going down like the Titanic and that he Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #193

I think that is valid. Of course it's not clear if its sustainable. What I think is clear though, is JCanete Mar 2017 #204

Going down? We're down! SMC22307 Mar 2017 #253

Clearly not tkmorris Mar 2017 #255

Oh please, everything is going great. Everyone at the salon QC Mar 2017 #258

You would think that would be obvious. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #268

Thank you Fast Walker saidsimplesimon Mar 2017 #103

Shit like that is a LIE Nevernose Mar 2017 #188

It's non responsive to the question BainsBane Mar 2017 #320

That was the ironic thing about the Ellison/Perez thing, wasn't it? Nevernose Mar 2017 #321

He started pissing me off well before the election nt Progressive dog Mar 2017 #286

Finally pundits should be able to accept that his popularity in 2015- 2016 Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #3

His definition of "Political Correctness" is certainly quirky. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #29

except among neo-liberal Democrats, LWolf Mar 2017 #4

... who happen to control the party. KPN Mar 2017 #28

Who are these people who "control" the democratic party? Be specific so we can discuss this. boston bean Mar 2017 #56

What neo liberal democrats are you speaking of specifically? boston bean Mar 2017 #54

Is anyone surprised? PatsFan87 Mar 2017 #6

He's probably the most honest politician we've had in the last 50 years. Ace Rothstein Mar 2017 #10

This Calculating Mar 2017 #13

Then why he never showed his taxws? He was obviously hiding something lunamagica Mar 2017 #57

Um, but people who remember his words and his promises and not the lack of synergie Mar 2017 #282

That's not a surprise. George II Mar 2017 #16

He's a strong and principled man. People see that and respect him. jalan48 Mar 2017 #7

Sanders is my top notch Senator... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #9

Absolutely agree and look forward to seeing what his future plans for himself are. Everyone I know, monmouth4 Mar 2017 #12

It seems ironic that he and Sen. King, both Independents, seem defend the ACA better than most Dems. dogman Mar 2017 #87

Not my favorite but ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #14

Their objective is to keep democrats divided. George II Mar 2017 #19

I believe you are correct. I wonder what the objectives are of people who promote the Fox poll... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #30

True -- but that has nothing to do with him being effective on both sides of the aisle. KPN Mar 2017 #32

I find that "higher percentage" thing questionable. George II Mar 2017 #39

I found this... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #49

Vermont is among a few states who don't ask for party affiliation when people register to vote... George II Mar 2017 #60

+1 The divisiveness is obviously his brand, R B Garr Mar 2017 #170

"Had the NRA been included, it, too, probably would have been highly popular,". JTFrog Mar 2017 #15

Meh. I remember seeing a similar poll during the primaries. He lost. Also a poll seaglass Mar 2017 #17

Not a very credible "poll" when politicians, legislation, organizations.... George II Mar 2017 #22

Both the poll and the WaPo article concern data lapucelle Mar 2017 #67

He'd better put some of that popularity behind these congressional races... Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #31

Well, saidsimplesimon Mar 2017 #35

Because he's genuine, consistent, honest, committed and a straight-talker. KPN Mar 2017 #36

So far Mr.Perez has said practically nothing. Where is his voice? YOHABLO Mar 2017 #42

Perez was great on All In on Thursday. lapucelle Mar 2017 #63

DNC Head Calls Trump Budget Plan Unconscionable KittyWampus Mar 2017 #68

Bullshit. JTFrog Mar 2017 #86

You poor thing.. you are so in the dark. You really do need to Cha Mar 2017 #180

But it was said with such conviction ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #224

Bernie had it right in ways he couldn't tell us or didn't recognize bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #62

The problem with Bernie is that he is not a Democrat? That's not the problem. It's an asset. tecelote Mar 2017 #64

What does that even mean? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #77

Yep. tecelote Mar 2017 #156

WTF? liquid diamond Mar 2017 #210

Hoo lawdy... The sour grapes in this thread! SMC22307 Mar 2017 #66

This is a post intended to cause division and to create posts that can then be Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #74

You and I think a lot alike. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #76

I was recently er 'followed' and not in a good way... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #78

Thank you by the way...I really enjoy your posts...always read them. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #79

:-D NurseJackie Mar 2017 #81

I love Miss Fisher... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #96

Yes there is much to refute here regarding character and honesty but it's pointless seaglass Mar 2017 #148

The first DU primary poll I remember had Bernie at 90% and Ron Green Mar 2017 #75

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #152

This is a fascinating survey - Bernie, Planned Parenthood and the ACA are all viewed favourably. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #84

Indeed. ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #99

I am SO glad you agree. I look forward to seeing your continued support for Bernie's efforts. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #105

Really? ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #138

Yes, really. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #140

But it's Bernie . . . so it's not a good thing. Much better to fault him because he dared to run Nanjeanne Mar 2017 #109

Indeed. We need him now more than ever. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #112

It's a skewed Fox survey....why would anyone put any credence in a poll/survey... George II Mar 2017 #130

Can you point out how it was 'skewed' and explain how their methodology was faulty? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #134

I already did. George II Mar 2017 #141

No, you didn't. You said you don't like the way they chose the categories. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #142

Don't need the English lesson, thank you. George II Mar 2017 #146

I reviewed the survey more than once and I still don't see the bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #153

FIRST example of bias is that only white politicians were included in the survey. Second example... George II Mar 2017 #292

It's a shame that the clickbait WaPo headline lapucelle Mar 2017 #179

I found it both surprising and encouraging. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #185

If you read the actual poll, popularity is neither lapucelle Mar 2017 #199

As I said I've read it more than once and I still don't see how this is a bad thing. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #209

I'm not concerned about the poll or its findings. lapucelle Mar 2017 #220

Well then you should take that up with WaPo. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #225

I'm always writing to the public editors of both WaPo and the NYT. lapucelle Mar 2017 #229

Unfortunately the "findings" of that survey are centered around a very tiny sampling of politicians. George II Mar 2017 #301

Popularity was never the issue. Cary Mar 2017 #287

I'm grateful to have him in the Senate Warpy Mar 2017 #129

Am I the only one with Bernie fatigue Motownman78 Mar 2017 #168

No Cha Mar 2017 #190

The Democratic Party is moving forward with Bernie Sanders. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #194

Fact: He is no democrat and not part of our party. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #215

Funny I thought he was head of the Democratic outreach committee. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #218

LOL, tell it to Perez, Ellison, Schumer, Warren, et al. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #228

You might want to tell Bernie and his staff, they chose not to keep the Democratic synergie Mar 2017 #281

Nope. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #212

I was sick of him months ago Idoru Mar 2017 #240

Nope. Fight on in the Senate, Bernie.... Adrahil Mar 2017 #261

No, he's burned out lots of people, and this fake news R B Garr Mar 2017 #273

"Besides Sanders, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Vice President Pence were the most popular Cha Mar 2017 #189

Fox News has nothing to do with it Nevernose Mar 2017 #195

They didn't ask me or anyone I know.. I like positive Democratic Cha Mar 2017 #198

Well they didn't ask ME so it doesn't count. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #211

"Facts are hard." SMC22307 Mar 2017 #235

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #236

It is a cruel, cruel sickness. QC Mar 2017 #237

Yes it is. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #239

And none offer up a path to the White House in 2020... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #238

The same people who thought bible belt states would turn blue last year. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #241

Oh, right. Georgia was one, if I recall. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #242

This is what happens when people only post in safe havens. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #246

Agree. And too much salon-going and not enough listening to actual voters... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #250

Yep. We should be having town halls every weekend. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #252

You could stand to do a bit of listening yourself BainsBane Mar 2017 #308

So much for a fifty state strategy BainsBane Mar 2017 #319

What's your path? BainsBane Mar 2017 #302

Drumpf and Medicaid-Killer Ryan came in behind Obamacare. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #197

The premise that anyone in that survey would be "one of Americas most popular politicians"... George II Mar 2017 #290

Major Kick for Bernie!!! nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2017 #251

He's certainly popular with me. mvd Mar 2017 #270

Being popular with your base has nothing to do with winning elections. democratisphere Mar 2017 #277

Unity is of the utmost importance in the 2020 election. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #313

So, fox viewers really like Bernie? That's an interesting survey have you looked at synergie Mar 2017 #280

The headline is grossly misleading - he's "one of Americas most popular politicians".... George II Mar 2017 #288

OK. He is also an independent Senator. Which is more important? MineralMan Mar 2017 #298

Agree. Oh, maybe not much liking finally. :) Hortensis Mar 2017 #309

I am not surprised. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #304

You do realize that is NOT what the poll says, right? still_one Mar 2017 #305

If you'd have been post #1, much of this thread could have been avoided randome Mar 2017 #312

Lead us forward, Bernie! We desperately need a leader! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #314

He is highly ranked on that particular list of 8 of politicians. nt pnwmom Mar 2017 #322

From over a week ago. Also hashed out then. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #324