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Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
84. Old conservative is overly simplistic
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:36 AM
Mar 2017

I went looking for evidence that getting old means someone is more conservative like I thought, but actually found some good evidence dispelling that myth. Like this Oew Research study.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/09/the-politics-of-american-generations-how-age-affects-attitudes-and-voting-behavior/

Further down the article you see a chart showing a voting pattern that's pretty interesting.

Thanks. elleng Mar 2017 #1
because people love to complain about stupid shit JI7 Mar 2017 #2
and they sure do it around here. elleng Mar 2017 #3
Giving Democrats under the age of 70 a chance isn't ageism. Recognizing that the upcoming KittyWampus Mar 2017 #4
Suggesting that adults over the age of 65 are too old to serve as President IS ageism. elleng Mar 2017 #7
Bingo. eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #12
I'm over 65 and I worked for many years in public services for seniors. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #39
This seems to be the stuff snort Mar 2017 #43
Every candidate I've observed struggled with endurance during presidential delisen Mar 2017 #75
Kerry's story breaks my heart. It was so unfair & GW Alice11111 Mar 2017 #105
It broke my heart too because I realized the swift boating had influenced me delisen Mar 2017 #115
Stick to principles v. Get the shit beat out of us Alice11111 Mar 2017 #119
So true. Need to figure out how to take the Propaganda Machine down delisen Mar 2017 #124
Yet Supreme Court Justice treestar Mar 2017 #91
They get down time though, and they have long Alice11111 Mar 2017 #107
I agree completely - and I am 62. Chemisse Mar 2017 #104
This sums up half the Internet! Beartracks Mar 2017 #26
As a senior MFM008 Mar 2017 #5
I'm no spring chicken and Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #6
Fast mental capability is more important, IMO. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #108
But even that drops with age Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #114
Yes. A trader on the CBE told me that 35 was about the max Alice11111 Mar 2017 #117
I see judgement as the most important characteristic. delisen Mar 2017 #126
Yes. I guess we won't see that for 46 months Alice11111 Mar 2017 #129
Do you consider energy more important than judgement? nt delisen Mar 2017 #125
Because it's helpful on a practical level Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #8
The youth factor pandered. Igel Mar 2017 #69
I said practical; not ideal Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #71
Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's, hardly something good in a president, fwiw uppityperson Mar 2017 #9
He obviously didn't have Alzheimer's for the 2 full terms. Manly_Scream Mar 2017 #13
"He obviously..." Really?? retread Mar 2017 #48
You are right janterry Mar 2017 #54
Funny....my wife and I were discussing this last night Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #64
He had Alzheimer's for most of the 2 terms though. uppityperson Mar 2017 #111
Yeah, they propped him up. This one is harder to prop up Alice11111 Mar 2017 #110
The presidency is physically and emotionally challenging. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #10
How is it physically challenging? Physically it seems to be a pampered delisen Mar 2017 #37
No, it's not the same as working as a lumberjack. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #40
One can handle stress, long hours, lack of rest better when in good physical shape Kaleva Mar 2017 #86
True. And anything you need to find out about treestar Mar 2017 #92
You'd probably call my life pretty pampered, too - Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #97
I've never heard an ex-president say that it was too physically demanding delisen Mar 2017 #100
So because they don't complain, Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #109
You cite fake news from The Daily Mail, I cite research from Journal of the American Medical Assoc. delisen Mar 2017 #120
So here's a few more sources. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #123
Still under 60 here. tazkcmo Mar 2017 #102
Actually older people tend to sleep less at night and worry about it-but it may be natural delisen Mar 2017 #122
Why do they need to weather 16 years: or come out of the presidency with a lot of life left to live? delisen Mar 2017 #89
The physical effect seems to be equivalent to about double the length of time in office Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #96
Thanks I see your meaning but it seems so unscientific. delisen Mar 2017 #98
I've seen it too. zentrum Mar 2017 #11
Agreed. I've been naming it when it happens, not to shame anyone but it's as if they just don't see JudyM Mar 2017 #99
My dad lived to be 93 LakeArenal Mar 2017 #14
All excellent points, Manly_Scream. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #15
Thank You Manly_Scream Mar 2017 #17
Ronald Reagan was too old. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #16
I'm not opposed to seeing younger candidates. Manly_Scream Mar 2017 #18
I am not claiming that Donald Trump's flaws are because of when he grew up. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #28
I do not agree and I have remarked here about the practice of ageism being purely discrimination Samantha Mar 2017 #23
I agree that there's a strong "frame of mind" aspect, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #30
"It's an issue of older people getting rigid in their mindset" Egnever Mar 2017 #35
Agree that it depends on the individual delisen Mar 2017 #63
And a fifty year old basketball player can't compete PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #93
Alexander the Great was quick and fit. Great physical condition. delisen Mar 2017 #127
I think Hillary has plenty of energy and does not seem older than her age. LisaM Mar 2017 #67
Agreed! butdiduvote Mar 2017 #78
I will politely disagree. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #94
When I see them together, they seem the same age. LisaM Mar 2017 #95
How are you defining looking older-skin tone, wrinkles? delisen Mar 2017 #128
I respect your opinion Samantha Mar 2017 #90
I agree janterry Mar 2017 #53
There's frequently worse ageism here on DU, marybourg Mar 2017 #19
Very Good Point...In Manly_Scream Mar 2017 #73
The presidency is an extremely demanding and stressful job BainsBane Mar 2017 #20
Are you in favor of an official maximum age for public office? delisen Mar 2017 #34
No BainsBane Mar 2017 #36
We all have the right to use whatever criteria we want delisen Mar 2017 #42
Age per se less important than health. TDale313 Mar 2017 #21
because woman, Elders & many minorities are held to a double standard by deplorable people. Sunlei Mar 2017 #22
I am 70 and have seen my father who worked hard all his live start slowing Jim Beard Mar 2017 #24
For someone in good health PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #31
Every time I read "too old" nonsense on DU democrank Mar 2017 #25
So you are basing your conclusion on the observation of ONE individual. Is that wise? randome Mar 2017 #52
No, randome, Im basing my conclusion that older people have much to offer on my observation democrank Mar 2017 #60
Of course older people have much to offer. Experience and wisdom should never be discounted. randome Mar 2017 #61
Last reply from me on this, randome. democrank Mar 2017 #83
Konrad Adenauer, 73 who rebuilt Germany after the young Hitler destroyed it delisen Mar 2017 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #27
Two words: Jerry Brown. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #29
Well, Reagan died between the ears a lot sooner than his heart finally gave out Warpy Mar 2017 #32
I remember Watergate and I'm 51... Cooley Hurd Mar 2017 #33
Allow me to be a bit contrarian on this queston Chitown Kev Mar 2017 #38
History has a story to tell. yallerdawg Mar 2017 #59
I've brought this up in other threads too Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #82
Oh, I'm not even 50 Chitown Kev Mar 2017 #41
I'm soon to be 70 lillypaddle Mar 2017 #44
I think it is a pre-judgement. delisen Mar 2017 #46
One thing is certain lillypaddle Mar 2017 #49
I am competely comfortable with Hillary in the WH - and she will be 70 in a few months DrDan Mar 2017 #85
Me too, but she's an exception in my mind, due to moonscape Mar 2017 #106
Ginsburg is 84 - her mind is incredibly sharp DrDan Mar 2017 #112
Naw, I'm not bigoted towards my peers, nor myself. n/t moonscape Mar 2017 #118
well, bigotry is treating members of a group with intolerance DrDan Mar 2017 #142
I agree with you lillypaddle Mar 2017 #141
yes! Ageism is common and is yet another strain of bigotry that should not be allowed here DrDan Mar 2017 #45
well lillypaddle Mar 2017 #50
Aged Leader Konrad Adenauer Chancellor of Germany 1949-6 age 73-87 delisen Mar 2017 #47
Statistically, most people over 70 cannot keep up with the rest of the population. randome Mar 2017 #51
Right, that is why people typically retire between 65 and 70. Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #74
Seems to me many of the younger members of congress are the drags on progress delisen Mar 2017 #130
I've seen ageism with both "to young" and "too old"... WePurrsevere Mar 2017 #55
the campaigns are so physically draining... samnsara Mar 2017 #56
I think Hillary not spending more time on the campaign trail going to Blue_true Mar 2017 #121
If only FDR had been more physically fit-or JFK-or Al Gore-or John Kerry-or Walter Mondale.or delisen Mar 2017 #136
Maybe those of us under 60 are just sick of Boomer politicians and think they should step back Recursion Mar 2017 #57
That's one good thing, in about ten years (if we last that long) nolabels Mar 2017 #70
Don't think anyone should step back, anyone can step up. delisen Mar 2017 #137
Internet forums and being President don't Progressive dog Mar 2017 #58
i often feel like I'm one of the few non Boomers on this forum crazycatlady Mar 2017 #62
Same here... Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #81
Ageism really started turning up here during this past campaign. Paladin Mar 2017 #65
Welcome to DU Orrex Mar 2017 #68
It works both ways. Older folks on here have been complaining about young people Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #72
You're too young to understand PJMcK Mar 2017 #76
Because we are the tenure party and seniority isn't always compatible with change and innovation BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #77
Bingo. "Change and innovation"...the turning of a page Chitown Kev Mar 2017 #80
so who are the unimaginative candidates? delisen Mar 2017 #131
Use your imagination BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #132
So I will assume there is no there, nt delisen Mar 2017 #134
Bernie Sanders said in a recent interview that the Dem Party is getting old. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #79
Old conservative is overly simplistic Bradical79 Mar 2017 #84
I'm 58 and I think my best years are still ahead of me. Kaleva Mar 2017 #87
I think that there are a lot of people who have kept up treestar Mar 2017 #88
I really don't want to see another president born in the 1940s. BlueStater Mar 2017 #101
It's everywhere. I watch Trevor Noah, I'm laughing along, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #103
Welcome to DU!!! onecent Mar 2017 #113
Welcome to DU! Different Drummer Mar 2017 #116
I think age does matter and especially in 45s case bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #133
Except 45 managed to get where he is at least in part by being the change candidate BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #135
Well I don't ever confuse electability with competence. My point was age does matter in conjunction bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #139
It it his age or his total lack of qualification.If one's only profession has been con man- delisen Mar 2017 #138
Agreed. bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #140
Age shouldn't preclude anyone Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #143
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