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In reply to the discussion: What's with all the Ageism in These Threads?? [View all]delisen
(7,194 posts)98. Thanks I see your meaning but it seems so unscientific.
Do you have any accelerated aging examples?
We have had since FDR(who did have a disability) Truman, Eisenhower, JFK (3 yrs but I could not say he aged appreciably in that time), Johnson. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton, G.W. Bush, Obama.
I honestly haven't seen the signs of accelerated aging
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/obama-going-gray-do-presidents-age-faster-201112063912
One researcher on aging found that presidents had longevity
Accelerated presidential aging? Not so.
The only problem with this notion of accelerated presidential aging is that it just aint so, according to S. Jay Olshansky, a professor at theUniversity ofIllinois at Chicago and a longevity expert.
In an article in tomorrows Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Olshansky says his research into presidential life expectancy found no evidence that American presidents die sooner than other American men of their time. In fact, quite the opposite: most of them lived long lives and beat the longevity expectations for their time.
Privileged people, including presidents, live longer
In his JAMA article, Olshansky offered a couple of explanations for presidential longevity.
All but 10 of the deceased presidents (whom he had studied) were college educated, wealthy, and had access to the top medical care of their day. The correlation between high socioeconomic status and long life is strong and consistent.
The other explanation is that these men were survivors. To reach the age at which they became president (the average was 55.1 years), they had to get through the perils of birth, early childhood, and young adulthood. Especially in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries, that wasnt easy, so these men probably had some inborn hardiness, as well as fortunate circumstances.
Do our eyes deceive us? Yes they do.
And yet presidents do seem to age before our eyes. Olshansky says thats partly because we just notice it more in someone who lives in the public eye.
In his JAMA article, Olshansky cited a study that connected gray hair to stress. But in his conversation with me, he emphasized that the outward signs of what we commonly attribute to aging and genuine aging arent necessarily related. Getting wrinkles and turning graythey really dont matter very much, he said.
In terms of knowing the experience and temperament of someone younger. Of course we can but they do have to have a certain amount of experience. Senators often do not have executive experience. Some experience in the non-governmental world.I suspect does not transfer well into the world of politics.
What do you think about the age of Supreme Court Justices?
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Giving Democrats under the age of 70 a chance isn't ageism. Recognizing that the upcoming
KittyWampus
Mar 2017
#4
Suggesting that adults over the age of 65 are too old to serve as President IS ageism.
elleng
Mar 2017
#7
One can handle stress, long hours, lack of rest better when in good physical shape
Kaleva
Mar 2017
#86
You cite fake news from The Daily Mail, I cite research from Journal of the American Medical Assoc.
delisen
Mar 2017
#120
Actually older people tend to sleep less at night and worry about it-but it may be natural
delisen
Mar 2017
#122
Why do they need to weather 16 years: or come out of the presidency with a lot of life left to live?
delisen
Mar 2017
#89
The physical effect seems to be equivalent to about double the length of time in office
Ms. Toad
Mar 2017
#96
Agreed. I've been naming it when it happens, not to shame anyone but it's as if they just don't see
JudyM
Mar 2017
#99
I am not claiming that Donald Trump's flaws are because of when he grew up.
PoindexterOglethorpe
Mar 2017
#28
I do not agree and I have remarked here about the practice of ageism being purely discrimination
Samantha
Mar 2017
#23
because woman, Elders & many minorities are held to a double standard by deplorable people.
Sunlei
Mar 2017
#22
So you are basing your conclusion on the observation of ONE individual. Is that wise?
randome
Mar 2017
#52
No, randome, Im basing my conclusion that older people have much to offer on my observation
democrank
Mar 2017
#60
Of course older people have much to offer. Experience and wisdom should never be discounted.
randome
Mar 2017
#61
I am competely comfortable with Hillary in the WH - and she will be 70 in a few months
DrDan
Mar 2017
#85
yes! Ageism is common and is yet another strain of bigotry that should not be allowed here
DrDan
Mar 2017
#45
Statistically, most people over 70 cannot keep up with the rest of the population.
randome
Mar 2017
#51
If only FDR had been more physically fit-or JFK-or Al Gore-or John Kerry-or Walter Mondale.or
delisen
Mar 2017
#136
Maybe those of us under 60 are just sick of Boomer politicians and think they should step back
Recursion
Mar 2017
#57
It works both ways. Older folks on here have been complaining about young people
Zing Zing Zingbah
Mar 2017
#72
Because we are the tenure party and seniority isn't always compatible with change and innovation
BeyondGeography
Mar 2017
#77
Bernie Sanders said in a recent interview that the Dem Party is getting old.
bathroommonkey76
Mar 2017
#79
Except 45 managed to get where he is at least in part by being the change candidate
BeyondGeography
Mar 2017
#135
Well I don't ever confuse electability with competence. My point was age does matter in conjunction
bronxiteforever
Mar 2017
#139