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Ms. Toad

(38,793 posts)
21. Newspapers are often inaccurate.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jun 2012

A level playing field, with respect to pre-exsisting conditions is one of the main achievements of the ACA. Once fully implemented (in 2014), you cannot be charged more because you have a pre-existing medical condition. I don't know the circumstances of the families being interviewed, or whether they were discussing pre passage, partial implementation, or after full implementation, but I have a disabled child and that is one of the parts of the legislation I paid most attention to because that without it there is little hope of obtaining medical care for her.

Here's a summary from a government site: "Uninsured people with pre-existing conditions in every state now have access to coverage through the new, temporary Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan. This serves as a bridge until 2014, when insurance companies can no longer deny or limit coverage or charge higher premiums to anyone because of a preexisting condition. " http://www.healthcare.gov/blog/2011/01/preexisting.html

Age (itself) is not a pre-existing medical condition. It is one of the few factors which can increase your premium (smoking being another). ACA does limit the multiplier for age to either 4 or 5 x the lowest premium . Insurance companies previously had free reign and the surcharge has been around 7x the lowest.

The stop gap measure for pre-existing conditions is not fantastic. It is way better than it was before the ACA - and once fully implemented it will be affordable. Many individuals with low income will be entitled to coverage at no charge, and even more will be entitled to subsidies to cover part of the cost and a portion of the deductible and co-pays. I would have preferred single payer. I would have preferred immediate implementation. But I'm not about to toss the baby out with the bathwater just because the baby is disabled.

If you are looking to prevent a medical catastrophe from completely wiping you out, you can get short term insurance until the ACA completely kicks in. Short term policies cost very little - a few hundred a year (and have high deductibles). They aren't intended to cover routine care - just to kick in so that you don't lose all of your assets because you had a catastrophic illness. (They do not cover pre-existing conditions, but you won't be denied coverage because you have one.

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My understanding donco Jun 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author caraher Jun 2012 #3
Tell them families earning up to $88,200 will qualify for credits to help buy it frazzled Jun 2012 #2
Thanks! caraher Jun 2012 #9
And that's the law's Achilles' heel. Igel Jun 2012 #13
Let me set straight a few things you've said frazzled Jun 2012 #18
Tell them to look up the word "subsidies." Then, there's Medicaid. Next have them check "dumbass." Hoyt Jun 2012 #4
'Democrats taxing the middle class and subsidizing the poor' leftstreet Jun 2012 #5
To be fair to Dems, it's difficult explaining anything to birthers, flatearthers, callous bigots,etc Hoyt Jun 2012 #8
Exactly and these are people who don't listen anyway treestar Jun 2012 #23
Well, I would say their concerns are valid. truedelphi Jun 2012 #6
ACA does a lot to raise the price of the product... Southerner Jun 2012 #10
I agree that there's a lot wrong with the Heritage Foundation solution we're stuck with caraher Jun 2012 #11
Some of what you have said is not accurate. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #19
That is not what the newspapers that covered the pre-exisiting truedelphi Jun 2012 #20
Newspapers are often inaccurate. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #21
Well maybe this will help you figure out the cricumstances of the truedelphi Jun 2012 #22
You won't get any argument from me that the bill still leaves far too many people Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #25
The way I understand it EC Jun 2012 #27
When my co-workers started bemoaning ObamaCare this morning... Iggo Jun 2012 #7
Ha! That's what I did, too, today at work! It did shut everyone up! nt Nay Jun 2012 #17
Actually, Larry O'Donnell explained it best. mzmolly Jun 2012 #12
I'd tell them to wait until 12/13 before getting an answer. Igel Jun 2012 #14
My take (this is general and broad - so go lightly) chowder66 Jun 2012 #15
A good thing for seniors socialaidem Jun 2012 #16
Links put together to help explain: Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #24
Send them to this online calculator... PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #26
This link should help you. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #28
thanks! <nt> caraher Jul 2012 #29
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