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Ruy Lopez

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54. Your text agrees with me more than its title

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:56 AM

Mar 2017

I suppose we agree that both sides can deny some facts due to ideology, with some evangelical conservatives clearly taking the cake in that respect.

But as the title of my post suggested, being less deniers of facts should not absolve progressives of some soul searching re: convenient denial of some realities (usually realities that do not tally with a desire for universal equality in all fields and all respects)

As for Paglia, while she might not always be right and **might** sometimes relish being abrasive, she does tend to have that gift of bringing discussions down to a practical level. I like the way she reminds some facts (hormones) and debunks some attitudes (the adversarial feminists)

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It's probably true, but with a caveat Ruy Lopez Mar 2017 #7

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True, but the four media quoted were left leaning anyway Ruy Lopez Mar 2017 #48

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Fair point ... mr_lebowski Mar 2017 #59

Democratic themes or not just plain ole fact? JHan Mar 2017 #12

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #51

"both sides" do it too doesn't stand up to scrutiny. JHan Mar 2017 #52

Your text agrees with me more than its title Ruy Lopez Mar 2017 #54

"A practical level" JHan Mar 2017 #57

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Well said. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #31

Thanks, Alice11111. VOX Mar 2017 #61

great post-- thanks Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #44

Thank you, Fast Walker 52. VOX Mar 2017 #62

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That might work! mdbl Mar 2017 #37

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Thanks! Roy Rolling Mar 2017 #38

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