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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
15. GOP can kiss my ass. They always have shitty logic.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:46 AM
Jun 2012

This issue is different from mere taxes. It is different from paying auto insurance.

Taxes go to public agencies that are accountable to the voters. The only time it is NOT accountable is when they contract out to private contractors and DEAR GOD that almost always leads to fucking disaster. Which should have taught America a lesson that private contractors for Government services is stupid and should be done away with, but we haven't learned that lesson, so...

In any case, paying auto insurance is a burden you incur for driving a car. If you don't drive a car you don't need to pay for auto insurance.

Being ordered to pay for health insurance is not the problem when it comes to paying taxes to support Medicare for All. That's not the problem. Being ordered to buy insurance from a private corporation is the problem. Being ordered to do so just because you are alive, means you can't get away from this obligation.

Oh wait, no, mybad, I only WISH the situation was that good. You can just pay the tax penalty instead. How does the tax penalty help us cover the uninsured? And wait, can't they just pay the tax penalty and then go get insurance after they get sick?

And a lot of employers have bullied Obama into waivers precisely because they planned to drop hundreds of thousands of employees at the onset of the individual mandate in order to save money by paying the tax penalty instead. Even now we have consultants advising even more corporations to do exactly this. Southwest Airlines has the balls to come out and say they stand to save $300 MILLION by dumping their employees off their health care plan and paying the tax penalty instead. They're using the Individual Mandate as a justification for this epically psycho asstard behavior. Sir or madam, you should be accusing me of writing science fiction to come up with stories like what Southwest is considering. It's just too evil to imagine as being possible in a civilized society.

What utterly floors me about this is that DUers haven't launched into a howling BLOODRAGE over corporations using the Individual Mandate against us like this. Or that we somehow let this loophole exist. When companies like Southwest pulls this crap, you as the taxpayer will subsidize their miscreant behavior, and their employees will pay dearly.

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I can't stand tofu but Live and Learn Jun 2012 #1
Does the GOP have any other tactics besides demagoguery? Major Nikon Jun 2012 #2
Sometimes some of them cry: struggle4progress Jun 2012 #4
it's like if you are a minority in the GOP you got to try harder or something JI7 Jun 2012 #3
"Hi! I'm Bobby Jindal and I'm actually not from Kenya!" struggle4progress Jun 2012 #5
Wow. Not one person, ever, has denied that this law Zalatix Jun 2012 #6
Apparently it would just feel better quaker bill Jun 2012 #8
The law of large numbers when it applies to insurance, look it up. Zalatix Jun 2012 #10
You are dreaming quaker bill Jun 2012 #19
That's why we're in the mess we're in. Enjoy! Zalatix Jun 2012 #22
There's two complaints about the mandate: "forced to pay" and "private corporation" rucky Jun 2012 #13
GOP can kiss my ass. They always have shitty logic. Zalatix Jun 2012 #15
my cousin drives a tofu. nt arely staircase Jun 2012 #7
So long as he's not eating a Chevy Volt ... surrealAmerican Jun 2012 #20
do chevy volt's have moon roof's? arely staircase Jun 2012 #21
Does your health private insurance company "force" you to live a healthier lifestyle? baldguy Jun 2012 #9
It works quite well nobodyspecial Jun 2012 #11
Tofu is made with GMO soybeans. Hate to agree with Jindal on this one, no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #12
so they've gone from death panels Enrique Jun 2012 #14
Actually the Commerce Clause part of the case should reassure him treestar Jun 2012 #16
Which would you prefer? A looming giant broccoli crown brought to you by a Dem or Skidmore Jun 2012 #17
When you don't have a leg to stand on, all slopes are slippery. nt Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #18
He's a pretty stupid shit isn't he. It wasn't upheld under the commerce clause, the dumbass. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #23
Remember when Bobby Jindal was considered a potential Republican Presidential candidate?... SidDithers Jun 2012 #24
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