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ProgressiveEconomist

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78. Rome was not built in a day. Subsequent legislation can lead to negotiated

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:57 AM

Jun 2012

prices for ACA medications, just the way the VA negotiates drug prices for vets.

The President, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid had to wheel and deal with tthousands of lobbyists for the vested healthcare interests to open the door to reform. As time goes by and voters get to experience some of the benefits of health insurance reform, Democrats gradually will become able to drive trucks through that door.

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Why the ObamaCare Ruling Stinks [View all] gotnoscript Jun 2012 OP

well yes, the problem with the ACA is that it continues the same corrupt medical insurance system, NoMoreWarNow Jun 2012 #1

Do you understand that maximum out of pocket includes drugs? flamingdem Jun 2012 #56

Gotnologic. aquart Jun 2012 #2

Oh snap! HappyMe Jun 2012 #7

What's not logical?... truth2power Jun 2012 #10

Let me add another bit of logic (reality) to this. To get to the Presidency, you have to sleep with Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #65

I agree. The real test would come with a second term.... truth2power Jul 2012 #92

DUzy malaise Jun 2012 #68

he goes have a script though. and plenty of hannity talking points dionysus Jun 2012 #70

Tell that to mother of a kid with pink eye JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #3

That's silly gotnoscript Jun 2012 #4

And what fine source of research ate you basing that conclusion on? Godhumor Jun 2012 #15

No, it isn't. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #19

So, go out and lobby your congress critters mercilessly. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #22

If you had Interstitial Cystitis you LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #33

"too much urinating" is also a common symptom from a urinary tract infection. MichaelMcGuire Jun 2012 #58

The Fact Is That ACA Is A GOP Plan They Supported But Hate It Now. TheMastersNemesis Jun 2012 #5

I think its more like Dokkie Jun 2012 #13

It was proposed as the alternative to HilaryCare bigbrother05 Jun 2012 #71

Of course it stinks and sucks KatChatter Jun 2012 #6

I think a lot of people will pay the tax instead. Laelth Jun 2012 #8

Another voice of reason. nt Blanks Jun 2012 #34

If enough people pay the tax, I wonder if that can become the public option. freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #52

That is my hope, certainly. n/t Laelth Jul 2012 #89

waaaaaahhhhhhhh geckosfeet Jun 2012 #9

Yep - trolls, sockpuppets, what have you...... kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #59

Yes they are SoutherDem Jun 2012 #75

Fair enough...pay the tax alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #11

More purist nonsense from the left's version of the TeaParty. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #12

agreed maddezmom Jun 2012 #64

It's Troll-aterday on the DU! Politicub Jun 2012 #14

How have you handled your health care up until now? Quantess Jun 2012 #16

The trololos.... Aviation Pro Jun 2012 #17

But Social Security didn't start by requiring people to start a private account Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #60

Exactly Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #85

it'll evolve, all right. but for whose benefit? already capital is lining up to "evolve" it. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #94

Welcome to DU. I disagree. Lex Jun 2012 #18

It may not be single-payer, which is what I want. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2012 #20

Totally Agree LovingA2andMI Jun 2012 #45

I'm guessing another under 30, single, male who rgbecker Jun 2012 #21

Yes, and another healthy young man or woman Quantess Jun 2012 #24

Worse, Lindorff is a Ron Paul fan. Another fauxgressive geek tragedy Jun 2012 #29

I'm a single female twice that age Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #62

Enslavement to insurance companies Individualism Jun 2012 #23

The repugs will make sure that the IRS can't hire new agents, so its a Win ,Win for bahrbearian Jun 2012 #27

And that translates into "I have health insurance and still can't afford health care". Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #53

Don't get your hopes up. The last time the Republicans gutted funding for the IRS TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #55

Can always count on the Repugs to protect the Rich, while screwing the poor, bahrbearian Jun 2012 #67

To use a word like "enslavement" thucythucy Jun 2012 #41

Thank you deutsey Jun 2012 #54

It's easy to disparage our medical system and the importance of healthcare Erda Jun 2012 #25

This stubborn insistence that the mandate does not help anyone treestar Jun 2012 #26

Lindorff prefers Ron Paul to Obama. Not a progressive. geek tragedy Jun 2012 #28

I wondered when this garbage would be posted... SidDithers Jun 2012 #30

Sid! Did you come from San Francisky? TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #49

Who the hell left the gate open ? The nutjobs have arrived in mass. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #31

My comprehansion is fine. meaculpa2011 Jun 2012 #36

We have spell check now. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #40

Yes, but using it is a sign of WEAKNESS! ;P TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #48

OK.. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #51

Best you can do? meaculpa2011 Jun 2012 #57

"Who the hell left the gate open?" Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #86

Well said... russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #88

Ayn Randian Libertarian fail thread is EPIC FAIL. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #32

The first paragraph tells me this guy doesn't get it... lame54 Jun 2012 #35

Just as SS and Medicare, this is NOT the final version. Atman Jun 2012 #37

Social Security did not start with *private accounts* Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #63

It doesn't fail at all, because I didn't make that analogy. Atman Jun 2012 #74

No, the insurance & medical corps are already lining up to "fix it". HiPointDem Jul 2012 #95

Remember all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth... Blanks Jun 2012 #38

Hit it Eduard.... Aviation Pro Jun 2012 #39

+1...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #47

! dionysus Jun 2012 #66

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #87

Well written post. On DU, being called a "troll" usually means MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #42

Actually, it does three things to lower costs: TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #46

Yes, but it is a good first step. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #61

In this case, they are an anti-medicine troll muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #72

LOL. He *was* a troll and has been axed. Lex Jun 2012 #83

Here are ProSense Jun 2012 #84

How strange to find you defending an anti-Obama troll! MjolnirTime Jul 2012 #90

The title of your Op/Ed should really be "Traditional Western Medicine is SUB-OPTIMAL." Not "Why TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #43

So America wasn't over-medicated with these drugs before Thursday? auburngrad82 Jun 2012 #44

DU Rec. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #50

Seriously? Please read the links in #72 muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #73

Let's go back to bloodletting Progressive dog Jun 2012 #69

Many Agree The ACA Is Not Perfect - It Is Better Than No Reform cantbeserious Jun 2012 #76

I clearly heard the President comment on the vote Ninga Jun 2012 #77

Rome was not built in a day. Subsequent legislation can lead to negotiated ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2012 #78

Obama wins, Trolls lose MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #79

indeed OKNancy Jun 2012 #80

So just pay the tax, at least you will be contributing to society. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #81

**** OP has left the building **** pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #82

Hi, Mole scheming daemons Jul 2012 #91

kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #93

The PPR'd TROLL is thankful for the recs, I'm sure. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #96