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sarah FAILIN

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4. That's the thing

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:14 AM

Mar 2017

I don't think rigging an election is illegal. I don't know, but I don't think it is. That's why I'm asking to see if anyone knows what the charges may be. I'm not trying to bring up "right wing talking points", so y'all don't go alerting all over the place, I'm trying to figure out what to say to my co-worker when he says this again. Nixon didn't actually break in to anything, but he knew about it. Not sure what his charges would have been. Seems similiar.

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what could Trump actually be charged with? [View all] sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 OP

Obstruction of justice underthematrix Mar 2017 #1

For the knowledge of the hacking or sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #7

For seeking to obtain information on FISA warrants underthematrix Mar 2017 #18

This would be about Priebus asking the FBI to smoothe it over sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #19

It's more obstruction than coverup underthematrix Mar 2017 #26

Conspiracy to rig an election in the favor of a foreign govt C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #2

That's the thing sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #4

It's called electoral fraud atreides1 Mar 2017 #8

We now know Manafort was working with Putin radical noodle Mar 2017 #16

I agree sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #20

Unless there is evidence that the voting itself was directly impacted onenote Mar 2017 #39

What evidence? former9thward Mar 2017 #42

Seems there's lots of illegal when it comes to elections C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #13

Possibly money laundering riverwalker Mar 2017 #3

That's what I said today they would get him for. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #6

Impeachment is a political act. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #12

What about when the U.S. interferes with a foreign election? former9thward Mar 2017 #43

That's a great point. The Russians should have impeached Yeltsin... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #47

But Clinton did this openly, not Ilsa Mar 2017 #63

Except he didn't. former9thward Mar 2017 #67

Clearly you don't give a shit about the integrity of our elections emulatorloo Mar 2017 #65

And you don't give a shit about U.S. interference in other countries elections. former9thward Mar 2017 #66

Ah the "we did it too!111" fake defense. emulatorloo Mar 2017 #69

Election fraud Permanut Mar 2017 #5

I don't think it would election fraud unless they prove the machines were altered sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #10

Point taken. Permanut Mar 2017 #35

Espionage. roamer65 Mar 2017 #9

Sounds good sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #15

Two types of espionage are against the law. Neither appears to apply onenote Mar 2017 #45

TREASON! Lil Missy Mar 2017 #11

Yes. What he has seemingly done, working to destroy democracy, is treason. The Wielding Truth Mar 2017 #23

Treasonous probably truebluegreen Mar 2017 #30

Would their cyber attacks constitute an act of war? NT Ilsa Mar 2017 #64

Their cyber attack was a successful act of war - we lost but haven't realized it yet Generic Brad Mar 2017 #68

seems to me there are many crimes they could find against him, ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #14

I agree, there's so many possibilities. Just a matter of them deciding to sacrifice him. Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #36

If he knew Dan Mar 2017 #17

possibly a violation of the Logan Act? 0rganism Mar 2017 #21

Espionage fun n serious Mar 2017 #22

Collusion tinrobot Mar 2017 #24

The real question is what WILL he be charged with? Kablooie Mar 2017 #25

And I assume there is no statute of limitations either, but I don't know that for sure. nt joet67 Mar 2017 #27

Accepting a bribe meadowlander Mar 2017 #28

RICO laws? Botany Mar 2017 #29

That'd be fun--seize all his assets* truebluegreen Mar 2017 #32

obstruction of justice...but also acting as an agent of a foreign government...making war on the US Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #31

So is there an existing statute or precedent truebluegreen Mar 2017 #33

what about this? sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #41

Nope. onenote Mar 2017 #48

Thanks. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #49

"You define"? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #50

It matters a lot to me. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #53

Gee, I thought this discussion was about the law. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #57

It looks like you are saying I don't have the right to have my own values. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #60

Attacking computers is against the law yes...there are all sorts of charges. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #58

Are there any that designate attacking computers as an act of war? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #59

The hacking is itself a crime. Not so different from Nixon having Liddy bug the DNC Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #34

Hacking the DNC and Podesta, obstruction of justice, campaign finance laws, money laundering, AND L. Coyote Mar 2017 #37

GREAT question. One I was wondering myself... jmg257 Mar 2017 #38

It would depend on exactly what the evidence established had been done and by whom. onenote Mar 2017 #40

Tons of things. Maybe we should ask what he can't be chaged with. The list would be shorter. kydo Mar 2017 #44

I wouldn't take a Trump Humpers word that he voted for Obama. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #46

yep. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #56

Failure to uphold the constitution of the United States? Initech Mar 2017 #51

Money Laundering. nt jrthin Mar 2017 #52

Whatever He Could Be jrthin Mar 2017 #54

Richard Painter says "treason." dchill Mar 2017 #55

Have him testify before a special prosecutor under oath. LiberalFighter Mar 2017 #61

Espionage and aid and abetting Vinnie From Indy Mar 2017 #62