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Caliman73

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9. Ridiculous!

Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:05 PM

Mar 2017

Other countries have people over 70 in them like Germany, France, England, Switzerland, Denmark, etc... and they all receive end of life care. We are not asking for "equal" care for all. We are demanding adequate care for all with the costs spread out over society based on ability to pay. Rich people will always be able to access better care for elective services. They can buy that. We can certainly pay for very good basic care services for everyone without destroying society except for ONE thing. Fools like your cousin don't care about others.

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How does a person respond to this? [View all] Heartstrings Mar 2017 OP

Pretty easy. tazkcmo Mar 2017 #1

That's evil. Plain evil. liberalmuse Mar 2017 #2

How old is your cousin? Will he say the same thing when he's 70? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #3

I'm 76. Is he 20? trof Mar 2017 #4

American conservatism equals ideology of psychopaths Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #5

How about, "so, my beloved cousin, you support... GReedDiamond Mar 2017 #6

I am 75 years old... chillfactor Mar 2017 #7

how old is your cousin ? and did you bring up how much is spent on trump ? JI7 Mar 2017 #8

Ridiculous! Caliman73 Mar 2017 #9

People like this tend to believe those countries Mariana Mar 2017 #60

ask the cretin if he reads at jr. high level, then send him this: Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #10

How is it that every other western nation has figured out healthcare and we haven't? cos dem Mar 2017 #11

They mostly took profit out of it. onecaliberal Mar 2017 #18

BINGO! regnaD kciN Mar 2017 #21

Actually, MyOwnPeace Mar 2017 #31

How is it? Republicans. Greedy, selfish, sociopaths. pangaia Mar 2017 #29

Greed. Big pharma and insurance companies liquid diamond Mar 2017 #57

......... isnt trump 70? :) samnsara Mar 2017 #12

Why would we want to spend the money on saving the life of a 70 year old HoosierDebbie Mar 2017 #13

Hey, this 70 year old woman with a very big yard Old Terp Mar 2017 #14

End of life care, the medical costs of the last month or so of most people's lives, is Squinch Mar 2017 #15

Yes but, ya know. Somehow I don't think the cousin is thinking about it the way you are. pangaia Mar 2017 #30

I'm thinking you're probably right. They do scare me with their cruelty. Squinch Mar 2017 #32

I agree with you 100%. beaglelover Mar 2017 #54

My pulmonologist told me this exact story. GitRDun Mar 2017 #58

With my mother it was not us, but rather the fact that she had had a surgery which Squinch Mar 2017 #62

My father would not even see my mother in the end GitRDun Mar 2017 #65

Exactly. And these cruel ways to treat the dying are just to make money for the docs and hospital. Squinch Mar 2017 #66

I would definitely impune the motives of a Trump supporter. Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #64

The problem with healthcare is... lisa58 Mar 2017 #16

A person who's 70 could live 20 more years. Jfc Drunken Irishman Mar 2017 #17

My response would be you sound like an eighty year old. Or how about why don't we just caroldansen Mar 2017 #19

Here is some good information from Physicians for a National Health Program mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #20

Thank you for that link. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #47

It's time we joined the rest of the industrialized nations. democrank Mar 2017 #22

Are your cousin's parents still living..? PoiBoy Mar 2017 #23

Your so cocky MFM008 Mar 2017 #24

70 year old has been paying for insurance for a minimum of 40 years Greywing Mar 2017 #25

Great points. LakeArenal Mar 2017 #42

Ask him how much it costs to save one preterm baby ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #26

They treat 70 year olds in other developed countries, and their life expectancies Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #27

He's factually wrong Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #28

I'd rather....... MyOwnPeace Mar 2017 #33

I guessing your cousin is very far from 70 whathehell Mar 2017 #34

I live in Canada ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #35

There is some truth to that statement, although not sure of age, etc. British system rations, as Hoyt Mar 2017 #36

Your cousin does not understand what is meant by "end of life care" jberryhill Mar 2017 #37

By ignoring it H2O Man Mar 2017 #38

That's what I usually do Heartstrings Mar 2017 #39

... and yet, it's more often the opposite case. politicat Mar 2017 #40

By the time he was 88,my dad had two heart attacks and two strokes... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #41

Lou! ❤️ Heartstrings Mar 2017 #45

I'm 60. Watched both parents die long slow deaths TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #43

It's my observation Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2017 #44

Easy. When For-Profit Healthcare Is Dead........... ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #46

Exactly..... Heartstrings Mar 2017 #48

You could point out that it doesn't suddenly become more affordable mythology Mar 2017 #49

Cheney's heart cost us a million dollars ck4829 Mar 2017 #50

Tell him Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #51

My response would be vlyons Mar 2017 #52

Thanks! Heartstrings Mar 2017 #53

You'll want to add that people in those countries tend to live longer and better, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #61

Just remember, ....technically ....that DNA laserhaas Mar 2017 #55

End of life care IS a major cost driver. Adrahil Mar 2017 #56

Ask him if if Trump, a 70 year old person, is worth a million dollars to save. Vinca Mar 2017 #59

Trump supporters dig DEATH PANELS eh? Dem2 Mar 2017 #63