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pat_k

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4. Very good point on ACA

Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:22 PM

Mar 2017

Dems need to put forward an ACA fix plan that adds the Public Option -- and get out there NOW to make the case for it. The public option benefits EVERYONE! As more employers and individuals opt for "public option" coverage, rates come down as the greater numbers put the plan in a better position to negotiate lower fees and prices. That is an "Affordable Health Care Act" that would truly benefit everyone -- and it would be seen that way.

It is the answer to the "look, the requirements are so onerous there are places that no insurance companies offer a plan" drum beat. Problem solved with the stroke of a pen. We are in a BETTER position to get the Public Option through because people are seeing that ACA is NOT fulfilling its promise. The way to fulfill that promise is to add the public option.

Vote for Dems in 2018 so we can REALLY fix ACA with a public option should be a drum beat.

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How to kill Social Security with a Smile [View all] pat_k Mar 2017 OP

You are absolutely right on this. TDale313 Mar 2017 #1

You make a really good point. dawg Mar 2017 #2

Very good point on ACA pat_k Mar 2017 #4

Public option would be good, but it wouldn't be a selling point to swing voters. dawg Mar 2017 #8

That too! pat_k Mar 2017 #11

I think we need to propose a public option only for ... dawg Mar 2017 #14

hmmm... pat_k Mar 2017 #15

We already tried for the pubic option. Powerful interests blocked it. dawg Mar 2017 #17

The case for public option was never made to the Public. pat_k Mar 2017 #19

Yeah, but I don't move in progressive circles and I don't think it has ... dawg Mar 2017 #22

As of this year, states can open exchanges pat_k Mar 2017 #25

Means testing turns social security into a welfare AJT Mar 2017 #3

BINGO. n/t CousinIT Mar 2017 #23

Thank you. Excellent post. nt pnwmom Mar 2017 #5

Absolutely no means testing, ever Warpy Mar 2017 #6

Good way to frame. pat_k Mar 2017 #9

If you find yourself talking to a moron Warpy Mar 2017 #10

Thanks for setting the pro-means testing folks straight! (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2017 #7

Sigh.. pat_k Mar 2017 #16

LOL, agree. Many are on the pro-Lindsey bandwagon... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #18

Well, he can be pretty funny when he's looped,.. pat_k Mar 2017 #20

Heh. And Jon Stewart does a wicked impression... SMC22307 Mar 2017 #21

raise Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #12

Yep. pat_k Mar 2017 #13

Wait until many of us placed in the "Well-to-Do" category. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #24

massive K & R JHan Mar 2017 #26

So that means if the cap is removed, people who pay more will get more? Hoyt Mar 2017 #27

They should get more. SS is earned. Bill Gates deserves it as much as I do. IMO. n/t USALiberal Mar 2017 #28

Fine, then we will need other ways to prevent shortfall than just increasing cap. Hoyt Mar 2017 #29

How about stop raiding it for other government programs? nt USALiberal Mar 2017 #30

Sorry, but that is not the reason for the shortfall. Being repaid for that is considered Hoyt Mar 2017 #31

OK, thanks for the info. n/t USALiberal Mar 2017 #32

Some of the options. pat_k Mar 2017 #33