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kenny blankenship

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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 02:51 AM

Dec 2011

As I had been self-exiled from eating hamburgers out of fear of E. coli O157:H7 poisoning for about 15 YEARS before I found about grinding beef at home. That's way too long to live without a hamburger, and if I can spare anyone else that kind of deprivation I am happy do it.

We always have to keep an eye on the news however, because the germs keep evolving. This past year's E. coli O104:H4 outbreak in Europe was the worst ever seen, in terms of the virulence of the new strain. The 18 people who died experienced the kinds of nightmarish symptoms one associates more with plagues like the Ebola virus than "food poisoning". And the vector of the poisoning - which was uncooked vegetables, apparently- is as insidious as the effects were horrible. People can say what they like about red meat, but I never thought I'd live to see the day when eating a green salad could kill you. Fortunately this new strain is no more resistant to heat than its predecessors.

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There's a 25% chance your supermarket ground beef contains antibiotic-resistant fatal bacteria [View all] Amerigo Vespucci Dec 2011 OP

Staph burgers, yummy! n/t bitchkitty Dec 2011 #1

Best to stop eating meat nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #2

or at least sylveste Dec 2011 #3

So, if I'm cooking beef, what is the best temp to cook to? tammywammy Dec 2011 #4

If you didn't grind it yourself, cook it gray all the way through kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #10

That's a great post tammywammy Dec 2011 #16

Thank you. It's my pleasure to share this information- kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #21

A very good post. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #25

Excellent information. Thank you. laundry_queen Dec 2011 #70

medium rare is not ok magical thyme Dec 2011 #56

Honestly, so what. downwardly_mobile Dec 2011 #5

Or you could eat a lot less but very good meat. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #6

I don't know if it would be better for my health -- downwardly_mobile Dec 2011 #7

What about ground turkey? Zalatix Dec 2011 #8

I lost 30lbs this summer from ground turkey food poisoning. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #13

I am sorry to hear that Tsiyu Dec 2011 #17

Oddly enough, I rarely eat meat. It was actually a whim! Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #26

Did you sue the restaurant? Holy moley Tsiyu Dec 2011 #68

It's the worst of the lot - see figures in reply #40 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #41

What do they mean by "brands" or "pre-ground meat products"? frazzled Dec 2011 #9

The Wired article says it is packages of ground meat. The Wired article also has a link to Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #14

No, it says it's not just ground meat muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #39

Food can kill you if you don't know how to prepare it. boppers Dec 2011 #11

Food can kill you when it is produced on factory farms. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #15

Food can also kill you when it is produced on Organic, "green", farms. boppers Dec 2011 #18

Your source is incorrect. It had nothing to do organic fertilizer. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #22

Please tell me about your danger-free foods. boppers Dec 2011 #35

There are no danger-free foods but certainly there are methods of farming Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #36

The "newsletter" statement is an internet shibboleth. boppers Dec 2011 #77

No more medium rare burger when I eat out? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #12

Don't eat out at places that use "supermarket" ground beef for their burgers slackmaster Dec 2011 #43

I guess my question is how much better can a nicer places beef be? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #55

Let me put it this way - I have gotten sick from McD's, BK, and JitB but never from places... slackmaster Dec 2011 #57

I would no more eat a cow, pig or chicken- than one of my cats, horses or dog. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #19

Humans are omnivores, eating meat is natural. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #47

But the meat on the market is FAR from natural... BeHereNow Dec 2011 #58

Who buys supermarket ground beef these days???? JDPriestly Dec 2011 #20

The vast majority. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #23

Really? Who DOESN'T, if you have a family to feed and don't have the bucks TwilightGardener Dec 2011 #48

cook the crap out of raw meat Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #24

That's what it comes down to when the vast majority of meat available Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #28

actually, I don't buy ground beef, only free range humanely raised poultry Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #31

Yes. The vast majority of meat eaters have to cook all the flavor Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #33

Jesus fucking Christ. I'm only trying to help. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #34

LOL Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #60

that is wonderful you can afford free range poultry tabbycat31 Dec 2011 #53

Let's see, which is worse, more expensive food or a major bacteria infection outbreak? Zalatix Dec 2011 #59

Trader Joe's. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #69

There are also ways to make, for instance, a single chicken breast go a long way Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #74

I would love to see huge agro companies put out of business Marrah_G Dec 2011 #64

So that explains the 1 in 4 dead people at the meat counter thelordofhell Dec 2011 #27

It is amazing how easily we've accepted that killer bacteria is a natural Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #29

Because killer bacteria has always been part of the food chain jeff47 Dec 2011 #46

It is part of the food chain Marrah_G Dec 2011 #65

1 in 4 do get sick SOS Dec 2011 #51

Another great reason to be a vegetarian :) /nt workinclasszero Dec 2011 #30

Yes, because is too is so very safe..... Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #32

I'm glad someone pointed out one of the important, if peripheral, Trillo Dec 2011 #54

Except for the killer cantaloupes. TwilightGardener Dec 2011 #49

Oh geez, thanks so much for that. Bastid. nt DCKit Dec 2011 #37

Just a couple of weeks ago, I ate some burgers from a batch recalled for Salmonella PotatoChip Dec 2011 #38

Beef had the lowest contanimation in the test muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #40

Do what we Texans always do... derby378 Dec 2011 #42

Yet another reason to support organic farmers of grass raised beef Marrah_G Dec 2011 #44

Organic grass-fed beef is just as susceptible to E-coli bacteria frazzled Dec 2011 #50

If you deal directly with small farmers I think its safer Marrah_G Dec 2011 #62

this is why one should NEVER eat ground beef that is not well done. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #45

BS article Weisbergkevin Dec 2011 #52

We've been meaning to tell you something, umm, did you watch Lost? Well DU is.....ahh you'll figure Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #61

I knew it! n/t librechik Dec 2011 #63

That's what I thought too. I love hamburger and eat it all the time. And I get mine totodeinhere Dec 2011 #66

Really? That's your reasoning? laundry_queen Dec 2011 #71

The only representation I made was that I eat a lot of hamburger and never get sick. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #73

Never buy the stuff. Fortunately, I am a vegetarian. n/t RebelOne Dec 2011 #67

On the CBC last year they did a story laundry_queen Dec 2011 #72

That is why i ask for burnt Rex Dec 2011 #75

I cook the hell out of all the meat I eat The Genealogist Dec 2011 #76