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Demsrule86

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77. The first goal is to save the ACA and it is not out of the woods yet.

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Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:08 PM

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Can someone explain to me if someone introduces a bill for Single Payer either in the [View all] still_one Mar 2017 OP

It won't see the light of day JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #1

Then we agree. I don't think it would ever get out of committee. still_one Mar 2017 #4

and maybe some Dem campaign ads for 2018 vlyons Mar 2017 #28

With repugs TEB Mar 2017 #2

I don't think that is just your opinion TEB, and think that is the political reality still_one Mar 2017 #6

It won't be acted upon TexasTowelie Mar 2017 #3

Good point Texas, if the past is any indication of the future, the attention span of many still_one Mar 2017 #5

You are correct TEB Mar 2017 #8

I wouldn't be so sure to conclude that it won't see the light of day UncleTomsEvilBrother Mar 2017 #7

It won't even get out of committee, the bill will die. That is what happens when you don't have still_one Mar 2017 #9

It is done because it is THE RIGHT THING TO DO! and keep doing it over and over til.... nt msongs Mar 2017 #10

That is fine, but the reality is that it will not get out of committee, and will get killed still_one Mar 2017 #12

So what? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #15

Where did I say it shouldn't be done? still_one Mar 2017 #16

The point of your post seemed to be, why bother? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #17

The point of my post is because some have the view in another thread that this is really going still_one Mar 2017 #18

Hmm. OK truebluegreen Mar 2017 #19

While Hillary didn't run on Single Payer, she did run on adding a public option to the ACA still_one Mar 2017 #20

Clearly, that generated a lot of enthusiasm. nt truebluegreen Mar 2017 #22

That isn't why she lost, and you know it. still_one Mar 2017 #23

You have no idea what I know, or don't. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #32

Sunday Bernie was praised for talking about the public option BainsBane Mar 2017 #29

They can run on saving the ACA which will help them... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #67

And in doing so, will engender both conversation and media coverage. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #57

Waste of time...and I would rather the media talked of the Russian story and Trump's attempt Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #68

Absolutely yes!! DeeDeeNY Mar 2017 #36

And if somehow it happens to be passed into law TexasTowelie Mar 2017 #11

I think it is possible to make it feasible, but since it isn't going to happen, it is academic at still_one Mar 2017 #13

Conyers introduced the bill two months ago BainsBane Mar 2017 #27

Execution tazkcmo Mar 2017 #55

Oh please...that is a red herring...more imporant things to do... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #66

A futile gesture, murielm99 Mar 2017 #14

You have to have something to fight for in order to fight well. aikoaiko Mar 2017 #21

Which is why John Conyers introduced the bill two months ago BainsBane Mar 2017 #26

Yes, every year for the last four years. Will you fight for Bernie's Senate bill, too? aikoaiko Mar 2017 #31

The Constitution stipulates that BainsBane Mar 2017 #34

Some of us would prefer in what I believe is a more effective strategy... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #69

Unlike GOP, Dems can build a coalition for Medicare-For-All. talking-liberally Mar 2017 #24

Paul Ryan and GOP BainsBane Mar 2017 #25

They will never build such a consensus...it would require Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #70

Bernie's making the right nervous RandiFan1290 Mar 2017 #30

John Conyers introduced HR 676 on 1/24/17 BainsBane Mar 2017 #33

Bernie's been making the rounds pushing for it and... WePurrsevere Mar 2017 #35

Nope, but that doesn't matter... paleotn Mar 2017 #37

They are very important, to show what we are about. Like the GOP voting over and over harun Mar 2017 #38

There has been a bill for such introduced in each congress since 2003. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #39

Same as the GOP introducing O-care repeal over and over and over, wildeyed Mar 2017 #40

I realize this is just another passive aggressive attack on Bernie but putting that aside, m-lekktor Mar 2017 #41

What happened to single payer in Vermont? Gothmog Mar 2017 #43

There is no chance of passing this bill Gothmog Mar 2017 #42

If you don't put it out there - it will never pass.... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #44

If it never gets out of committte, it gets killed. This thread ISN'T anti-single payer, but it is still_one Mar 2017 #45

My point: be positive. Being positive spreads to other people... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #54

That's good, but the best we can hope for right now is delay until 2018 still_one Mar 2017 #56

No we don't because we can't and such talk endangers the ACA... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #71

The ultimate goal is Medicare for ALL. Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #73

The first goal is to save the ACA and it is not out of the woods yet. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #77

Absolutely correct - the repubs are still gunning to kill the ACA... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #78

Okay. People who think this is actually going to pass are being overly optimistic, BUT JCanete Mar 2017 #46

I realize that, and am very much for Single Payer, but this won't get out of committee. The point still_one Mar 2017 #48

Again, never expected to get out of committee. in previous years, I understand Sanders has proposed JCanete Mar 2017 #60

You make an excellent argument, and there is nothing you said that I disagree with. still_one Mar 2017 #61

I live in California too, and wasn't aware of that bill. Awesome! I'll look into it. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #62

Here still_one Mar 2017 #63

start working on it now... lame54 Mar 2017 #47

It would need to be resubmitted in 2018, because the republicans will not let this get out of still_one Mar 2017 #50

so don't submit it till we need it... lame54 Mar 2017 #79

it would NEVER get to the floor. it would be ignored. file 13 spanone Mar 2017 #49

Elections have very real consequences. Will the voting dynamic change in 2018? We hope so still_one Mar 2017 #51

i think we need to bring up single-payer every chance we get, but as long as we're a minority.... spanone Mar 2017 #58

Waste of time... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #74

Citizens STOPPED the ACA repeal. They can GET Single Payer leftstreet Mar 2017 #52

First of all that wasn't the same thing. Second, trump has already threatened that the ACA will be still_one Mar 2017 #53

There is no evidence they want single payer. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #75

By keeping it front and center... Heartstrings Mar 2017 #59

majority controls the legislative process...elections of consequences, 2018 must happen first beachbum bob Mar 2017 #64

It won't get acted on and with the GOP planning to try to kill the ACA again, Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #65

right now it's important to get them on the record in support or opposition 0rganism Mar 2017 #72

Why? So we can divide and conquer and attack our own party instead of the GOP. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #76

really? finding out where our elected representatives stand is "attacking our own party"? 0rganism Mar 2017 #80

Yes...it would divide Democrats...and for something that has no chance of becoming law Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #81

conversely, Democrats need to take clear and unambiguous stands on easily comprehended policies 0rganism Mar 2017 #82