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synergie

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110. I think you might wish to re-read Geroge's original post.

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #103)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:48 PM

Mar 2017

He explains why it was skewed.

It's fox, they have a tendency towards bias, and George broke it down pretty clearly how the bias worked here.

It is very nice that Fox news viewers, in a rather skewed poll do indeed support liberal organizations and politicians, but to detect bias one does need to look at methodology, subject selection criteria, how a question is asked and what the other options are.

I would think when relying on right wing sources, which have a habit of being less than strict, that it would bear a closer look.

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That is exactly right George still_one Mar 2017 #55

If you look at the Gallup Most Admired poll, lapucelle Mar 2017 #111

Ugh! A totally ridiculous poll. (Thank you for putting it into perspective.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #12

He's been the most popular senator for years and other polls reflect his high favourability rating. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #54

Those are favorability ratings. Not the same thing as the poll being referred to in the OP still_one Mar 2017 #66

He's been voted the most popular senator for years - that's a fact. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #73

I wish that H2O Man Mar 2017 #102

Hello friend! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #104

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His opposition to Trump has been loud and consistent. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #137

For sure! Plus, he comes out and says it. None of this extreme understatement BS. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #139

He's been my favorite senator ronnie624 Mar 2017 #140

I really like hearing that. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #141

I first met him H2O Man Mar 2017 #146

Even then he was reaching out to young folks outside of Vermont. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #149

I was recently invited H2O Man Mar 2017 #151

Unfortunately no. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #153

WHO CARES ABOUT A STUPID POLL ABOUT POPULARITY ANYWAYS!!!!! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #155

BEYOND RESISTANCE: A PEOPLES MOVEMENT FOR A JUST WORLD Donkees Mar 2017 #2

Nina Turner putting in a pitch for Jill Stein 2020? brooklynite Mar 2017 #19

OMG! Really? This is inappropriate (in my opinion). NurseJackie Mar 2017 #26

A lot of great names there (one I could do without). Eve Ensler did Michigan proud... demmiblue Mar 2017 #21

I forgot a special shout-out for nurses unions! demmiblue Mar 2017 #22

Thank you! Those NURSES sure LOVED Bernie! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #58

Were there more than the one union? synergie Mar 2017 #65

No, I was speaking in general (another strong one is the California Nurses Association). demmiblue Mar 2017 #75

I thought that was just an alternate name for the one mentioned there. synergie Mar 2017 #85

So this is just a gathering of Bernie supporters? synergie Mar 2017 #47

Just so people KNOW who Winnie Wong is. She is not a friend of the Democratic party still_one Mar 2017 #3

I can't discern what their true intentions are! Are they trying to hijack the Democratic Party? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #16

Just the statement ""The Democrats will be forced to move left." tells me that they fail still_one Mar 2017 #23

I hadn't noticed that... but you're right. They are politically unsophisticated (in my view.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #24

Seems more like a reunion. synergie Mar 2017 #50

That's observant and logical. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #74

Yes. You nailed it. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #150

Winnie Wong: "The Democratic Party is not your friend." We have to organize ourselves. #ydsRESIST Cha Mar 2017 #115

Glad to know a Democratic ally and progressive like Sanders is fighting for the people... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #4

Are you suggesting that nobody else is fighting for the people? (That's how it sounds.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #38

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #127

Our Democratic Party is On the Front Lines Fighting for our Very Lives.. in Cha Mar 2017 #123

Yes. United we stand. Divided we fall. Don't be divided!!!!! We are all agaist the Trumpsters' mean Alice11111 Mar 2017 #142

To be fair, some take a different approach to fighting than others. JCanete Mar 2017 #143

I agree with Wong's statement... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #6

Do you agree with this statement of hers? George II Mar 2017 #8

We need to move the Dem party more to the left.... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #10

What do you think of that statement by Ms. Wong? George II Mar 2017 #11

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The Democratic party has never been a monolitic party. That is what Howard Dean's 50 state still_one Mar 2017 #27

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I was referring to Winnie Wong's facebook page, and I should have made that clear. Thanks still_one Mar 2017 #36

Centrist Democrats are NOT republicans!!! Incidently, you are violating the TOS with that false still_one Mar 2017 #48

OMG and WTF? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #51

Yes, it's busterisms all over again. JHan Mar 2017 #77

"I'm not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat." Alice11111 Mar 2017 #130

You got it still_one Mar 2017 #131

The Democratic Party is out there fighing on the Front Lines for Cha Mar 2017 #119

Who ever envisioned a party MuseRider Mar 2017 #29

No... it's not "kinda-like" that at all. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #41

The antonym of a "friend" is "enemy". Your blithe dismissal of that destructive statement... George II Mar 2017 #44

A party need be neither of those things MuseRider Mar 2017 #81

Thanks MuseRider. Well said. n/t ms liberty Mar 2017 #113

Bravo! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #121

Oh I very much consider anyone who's working hard for me and Cha Mar 2017 #122

People vs party MuseRider Mar 2017 #124

The Democratic Party is my Friend.. trump and other assholes are not. Cha Mar 2017 #125

I have no idea why some think a move way left would allow us to win. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #35

What is 'way left'? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #43

FDR was elected 85 years ago. We're in an entirely different "era" now in 2017.... George II Mar 2017 #49

Thx. Interesting. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #145

Purism uponit7771 Mar 2017 #70

Here's the problem with that theory. DanTex Mar 2017 #83

Yeah and president Truman was wrong in this case... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #89

Well said. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #144

If only 20% (probably less) of the "Party" (many aren't even Democrats anyway).... George II Mar 2017 #45

You are exactly right George...this small faction seems to think Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #87

Not only that but the small faction includes some who never even bothered to join the Party. George II Mar 2017 #93

I don't understand why those are not Democrats (and no I am not Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #99

Fuck it. We tried the Repub suck up. We lost the base. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #132

You are right...those who refused to vote for the Democrat who knew what Trump would Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #147

Yep, we can chalk up lost elections because of them Alice11111 Mar 2017 #148

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mobilizing the people bdamomma Mar 2017 #7

Thanks for sharing this. Guess it would be wishful thinking that it will get any tv coverage . . . Nanjeanne Mar 2017 #9

If memory serves me correctly, the "RT" Youtube channel likes to cover things like this... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #25

Here's where you can find TV coverage. synergie Mar 2017 #82

MSNBC and CNN are more than likely to carry stories/coverage. demmiblue Mar 2017 #88

Half of CNN is panels of bimbo Repubs. They have some Alice11111 Mar 2017 #134

It's unclear if this group is FOR or AGAINST the Democratic Party. Can anyone clarify? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #14

Progressive Democrats of America crazycatlady Mar 2017 #18

I just visited their Wiki page and their Facebook page... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #20

That is what it read like to me catlady, meow still_one Mar 2017 #28

The Women's March was not Bernie Sanders people, Indivisible is not Bernie Sanders people. Sick of seaglass Mar 2017 #15

Thank you for telling the truth and for bringing things back to reality. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #17

An interesting point. When Michael Moore started to slam the Democratic party, Ashley Judd put a still_one Mar 2017 #30

Thank you, seaglass! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #46

Do agree with that. Telling the majority population that these Hortensis Mar 2017 #56

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But face it, it's a whole lot easier than doing the actual work. synergie Mar 2017 #67

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #71

This sounds incredible. MuseRider Mar 2017 #31

Wait. Huh? What makes you believe that ANYONE thinks this is about the primaries? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #33

LOL MuseRider Mar 2017 #37

Thank you for your reply. It answers my questions perfectly. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #40

So true LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #152

So true to you too! :-) MuseRider Mar 2017 #160

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. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #39

Happy to see so many are still inspired by Bernie's message! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #42

Another skewed poll. For one thing, the poll didn't ask for "popularity", it asked for "approval"! George II Mar 2017 #59

I'm not sure that's what 'skewed' means. Bernie has been the most popular senator for years beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #61

I don't know what or where all that stuff came from, but...care to address the poll YOU posted? George II Mar 2017 #64

It came from Huffpo's pollster which tracks all major polls - I included a link. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #68

The poll itself isn't innately flawed, but skewed in that it didn't give each of the respondents... George II Mar 2017 #76

So you think it would be more accurate to poll Texans on Massachusetts senators? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #79

To be meaningful in assessing the most "popular" Senator would be to ask all respondents... George II Mar 2017 #80

Then you should be happy with the results from Fox's poll. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #86

Once again, a very limited choice for their respondents, rendering the poll useless... George II Mar 2017 #91

The choices weren't unrelated and they were separate categories. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #94

That's simply not true. Here is the actual question as asked by the pollster: George II Mar 2017 #95

Except each politician/political organization was rated seperately. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #97

Please reread the document that Fox News published. My previous post included... George II Mar 2017 #100

I've read it several times and I still don't detect any bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #103

Okay then, where did you detect that.... George II Mar 2017 #108

Each question was asked separately, they didn't ask them to compare. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #114

Where in the poll result document did you read that each question was asked separately? George II Mar 2017 #116

All of these polls HIGHLY limit their choices - that doesn't indicate bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #117

Maybe I can help: H2O Man Mar 2017 #159

Very well said. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #161

Right. H2O Man Mar 2017 #162

Good luck tonight! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #163

Right! H2O Man Mar 2017 #164

I think you might wish to re-read Geroge's original post. synergie Mar 2017 #110

Thanks for illustrating how this poll is fake. Bernie R B Garr Mar 2017 #129

Oh, wow! So he's NOT America's "most popular Senator" after all. I knew something was fishy ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #62

The bottom line regarding that "poll"... George II Mar 2017 #78

But "Most-Popular-Senator-In-His-Own-State-Compared-To-Other-Senators-In-Their-Own-States" doesn't NurseJackie Mar 2017 #84

I'm a Hill supporter forever, but I'm joining up. Bernie, lead Alice11111 Mar 2017 #133

Good to hear! We're all on the same team, right? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #136

Thank you!Yes, it's us against the evil trumpsters. United we stand. Don't let them divide us again. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #138

Will he be promoting the Democratic Party at this "People's Summit"? George II Mar 2017 #52

I'm eager to see what kind of "Outreach" there will be on behalf of the Democratic Party. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #53

This is a "PEOPLE'S" Summit democrank Mar 2017 #92

That's not what I asked. I'm interested in knowing what he'll be doing (if anything) ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #96

I have no interest in compiling a list of all people/groups that democrank Mar 2017 #106

Yes, I agree with you. I hope Bernie does that too. It's something he often struggles with... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #109

GOOD answer! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #98

He'll be promoting Democratic party ideals LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #154

Who defines "Democratic party ideals"? George II Mar 2017 #156

Here's a good place to start LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #157

That seems reasonable and I haven't seen any of our office holders who don't live up to those ideals George II Mar 2017 #158

any??? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #165

This is GREAT! I wish I lived closer so I could attend FDRsGhost Mar 2017 #57

It'll be on RT's youtube channel, probably. They like stuff like this. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #63

Excellent malaise Mar 2017 #72

I'm very excited about this! There's some great people on that list. PatsFan87 Mar 2017 #90

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #101

So much anti-Bernie sentiment on this thread. panader0 Mar 2017 #105

Not really, if you subtract the people who wrote 10 or more posts that are "skeptical" of him Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #107

LOL "Round up the usual suspects." panader0 Mar 2017 #112

This. It may be their right, but it is ugly behavior ms liberty Mar 2017 #118

"They are more dependable than Old Faithful" LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #120

Whew !!! Thought I was the only one who noticed that. pangaia Mar 2017 #126

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