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treestar

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16. 2/3 of states legislatures is 33 of them
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:57 AM
Mar 2017
http://mytowntutors.com/2012/08/the-electoral-college-by-state-highest-to-lowest/


The Electoral College by State: Highest to Lowest


1. California – 55
2. Texas – 38
3. Florida – 29
4. New York – 29
5. Illinois – 20
6. Pennsylvania – 20
7. Ohio – 18
8. Georgia – 16
9. Michigan – 16
10. North Carolina – 15
11. New Jersey – 14
12. Virginia – 13
13.Washington – 12
14. Arizona – 11
15. Indiana – 11
16. Massachusetts – 11
17.Tennessee – 11
18. Maryland – 10
19. Minnesota – 10
20.Missouri - 10
21. Wisconsin – 10
22. Alabama – 9
23. Colorado – 9
24. South Carolina – 9
25. Kentucky – 8
26. Louisiana – 8
27. Connecticut – 7
28. Oklahoma – 7
29. Oregon – 7
30. Arkansas – 6
31. Iowa – 6
32. Kansas – 6
33. Mississippi - 6

34. Nevada – 6
35. Utah – 6
36. Nebraska – 5
37. New Mexico – 5
38. West Virginia – 5
39. Hawaii - 4
40. Idaho - 4
41. Maine – 4
42. New Hampshire – 4
43. Rhode Island – 4
44. Alaska - 3
45. Delaware – 3
46. District of Columbia – 3
47.Montana – 3
48. North Dakota – 3
49. South Dakota – 3
50. Vermont – 3
51. Wyoming – 3

So the question is how many votes gives a state disproportionate representation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

Also some states with disproportionately high representation will still agree it is unfair and go along:


Jurisdictions enacting law to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
No. Jurisdiction Current
Electoral
votes (EV) Date adopted
1 Maryland 10 April 10, 2007
2 New Jersey 14 January 13, 2008
3 Illinois 20 April 7, 2008
4 Hawaii 4 May 1, 2008
5 Washington 12 April 28, 2009
6 Massachusetts 11 August 4, 2010
7 District of Columbia 3 December 7, 2010
8 Vermont 3 April 22, 2011

9 California 55 August 8, 2011
10 Rhode Island 4 July 12, 2013
11 New York 29 April 15, 2014
Total 165 (61.1% of the 270 EV needed)
Eliminate the EC and return to paper ballots...nt LakeArenal Mar 2017 #1
And the asinine need to know who won the same night of the election. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #3
Exactly! rogue emissary Mar 2017 #8
THIS! ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #13
That can be done with adequate counters in each precinct Warpy Mar 2017 #51
word. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #42
I don't know if it needs to be eliminated outright Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #2
The EC, like the Senate, has a clear GOP Bias... eniwetok Mar 2017 #21
It also invites rigging the election in a few states by switching just a few votes. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #4
Yes! The worst aspect of the EC... VOX Mar 2017 #41
absolutely, much easier to steal. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #43
Russ Feingold would like to abolish it as well...... a kennedy Mar 2017 #5
All you have to do is convince those same small States to change the Constitution.... brooklynite Mar 2017 #6
that's the Catch 22 eniwetok Mar 2017 #7
2/3 of states legislatures is 33 of them treestar Mar 2017 #16
Amending the Constitution requires 3/4 of the states, not 2/3 Jim Lane Mar 2017 #18
I think the 2/3 came from....... WillowTree Mar 2017 #22
oh you are rights treestar Mar 2017 #23
The National Popular Vote Compact is not an amendment eniwetok Mar 2017 #38
So the question is how many votes gives a state disproportionate representation? eniwetok Mar 2017 #20
It does not look good in that treestar Mar 2017 #24
I think our system has unintended consequences... eniwetok Mar 2017 #25
Wouldnt that make winning elections harder? MichMan Mar 2017 #33
I don't think the nation would let CAL go... eniwetok Mar 2017 #36
yes, but the other blue states could join them. works for me. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #44
and it's proving to be the end of what little democracy is left....the last 16 years have Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #26
I remember reading that some states have a "work-around" plan. The participating states... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #9
clever idea... but I suspect it's doomed eniwetok Mar 2017 #10
Found this link. Legal arguments for and against. I believe the "for" arguments are stronger. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #12
I don't like that idea MichMan Mar 2017 #34
So you're opposed to it when it's not in your favor? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #35
either Dems stand for democratic principles... or they don't. eniwetok Mar 2017 #39
But if it were the will of the majority of voters in the US that would be a fairer outcome pnwmom Mar 2017 #46
EC is crap, just like the way congress is elected Ezior Mar 2017 #11
How many complaints have you read here about the Democratic Party, DCCC, etc? brooklynite Mar 2017 #14
the list system opens up the door for third parties... eniwetok Mar 2017 #19
Not sure what you have against the election of senators... clementine613 Mar 2017 #47
are you THAT unaware of vote weighting? eniwetok Mar 2017 #48
I meant within each state... clementine613 Apr 2017 #71
isn't the issue here what's ANTIdemocratic? eniwetok Apr 2017 #72
Yes. treestar Mar 2017 #15
There is a great video that shows that you only need to win about 22% of the vote to win the EC ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #17
Here ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #28
BRILLIANT VIDEO!!! eniwetok Mar 2017 #49
all the more reason that losers love it, and will never let it go. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #45
How do you get rid of the ec? caroldansen Mar 2017 #27
It's kinda hard Calculating Mar 2017 #30
We'll never have fair elections so long as this abomination of a system exists Calculating Mar 2017 #29
and in the Senate.... Dems represent 33 million more Americans that the GOP eniwetok Mar 2017 #32
The more important issue is the focus on swing states. Jim Lane Mar 2017 #31
The EC actually does a good job at achieving the goal it was designed to achieve. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #37
the EC was to magnify the power of white in slave states... eniwetok Mar 2017 #40
That quote gets thrown around a lot Azathoth Mar 2017 #50
Sure... but maybe it doesn't matter. eniwetok Mar 2017 #54
And it has policy implications as well. Yavin4 Mar 2017 #52
I have always wondered what would happen duncang Mar 2017 #53
It Also Seems To Be Doing The Opposite of The Intent ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #55
we can't unravel "winner take all" eniwetok Mar 2017 #56
Don't Disagree, E ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #57
It would still be a virtual tie... eniwetok Mar 2017 #59
Six of the 9 Scenarios Show Clinton on Top ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #61
Really? One? eniwetok Mar 2017 #63
You Can Quit Yelling At Me ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #64
sorry... eniwetok Mar 2017 #66
"I know it's highly unlikely" former9thward Mar 2017 #58
I know it's "improbable": SO WHAT!! eniwetok Mar 2017 #60
Rightly or wrongly forthemiddle Mar 2017 #67
in republican political theory all power derives from the PEOPLE eniwetok Mar 2017 #70
the currents of antidemocratic government are insidous eniwetok Mar 2017 #62
Blood red mountain grammy Mar 2017 #65
I'm not a huge fan of the EC Sgent Mar 2017 #68
Why should ANY voters get a bigger vote than others? eniwetok Mar 2017 #69
What a total waste of time looking backward as if we didn't have enough problems.. CK_John Apr 2017 #73
are you suggesting we don't bother to understand what needs to be fixed? eniwetok Apr 2017 #74
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