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LiberalLovinLug

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Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:17 PM

Mar 2017

That is very generous of you to be reasonable, but I can't let that second statement slide.
There are a number of republican-lite DINO reps who vote with Republicans on various important issues.

Bill Nelson, Joe Manchin...

Then there's Ami Bera, Jim Costa and Scott Peters in California, Sean Patrick Maloney (New Dem-NY) and Patrick Murphy (FL) all working hard to put SS back on the table.

Here's an early DU post from babylonsister no less in 2009 by Rachel Maddow explaining "ConservaDems" and the harm they are doing. (video doesn't work anymore)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x284012

Anyways. IMO we have to back whomever shares the ideals and values we have, regardless if they are exactly the same in going too far or not far enough. Those who regard the Democratic party as the closest one to represent their own positions, should welcome others that share those values. And obviously regardless if some random top 10 popularity poll is legit or not.

But even beyond that...
I do not understand how some here can't even get behind the notion of the enemy of my enemy... For gawds sake (and America's sake) even if you somehow detest the cranky little old man, can't some of you at least resist crapping all over any efforts by him to fight Trump's and the GOPs agenda? Just ignore threads like this, that would be an improvement.

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Sanders to headline progressive 'People's Summit' [View all] Donkees Mar 2017 OP

It would have been nice if some of those self-identified progressives didn't vote third party still_one Mar 2017 #1

"I wonder what the results would be if Putin was included?"... George II Mar 2017 #5

That is exactly right George still_one Mar 2017 #55

If you look at the Gallup Most Admired poll, lapucelle Mar 2017 #111

Ugh! A totally ridiculous poll. (Thank you for putting it into perspective.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #12

He's been the most popular senator for years and other polls reflect his high favourability rating. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #54

Those are favorability ratings. Not the same thing as the poll being referred to in the OP still_one Mar 2017 #66

He's been voted the most popular senator for years - that's a fact. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #73

I wish that H2O Man Mar 2017 #102

Hello friend! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #104

Yes, Comparing 20 yrs ago w now is distortion.I'm a Dem, Hill supporter, & I may go. Lead us, Bernie Alice11111 Mar 2017 #128

His opposition to Trump has been loud and consistent. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #137

For sure! Plus, he comes out and says it. None of this extreme understatement BS. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #139

He's been my favorite senator ronnie624 Mar 2017 #140

I really like hearing that. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #141

I first met him H2O Man Mar 2017 #146

Even then he was reaching out to young folks outside of Vermont. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #149

I was recently invited H2O Man Mar 2017 #151

Unfortunately no. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #153

WHO CARES ABOUT A STUPID POLL ABOUT POPULARITY ANYWAYS!!!!! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #155

BEYOND RESISTANCE: A PEOPLES MOVEMENT FOR A JUST WORLD Donkees Mar 2017 #2

Nina Turner putting in a pitch for Jill Stein 2020? brooklynite Mar 2017 #19

OMG! Really? This is inappropriate (in my opinion). NurseJackie Mar 2017 #26

A lot of great names there (one I could do without). Eve Ensler did Michigan proud... demmiblue Mar 2017 #21

I forgot a special shout-out for nurses unions! demmiblue Mar 2017 #22

Thank you! Those NURSES sure LOVED Bernie! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #58

Were there more than the one union? synergie Mar 2017 #65

No, I was speaking in general (another strong one is the California Nurses Association). demmiblue Mar 2017 #75

I thought that was just an alternate name for the one mentioned there. synergie Mar 2017 #85

So this is just a gathering of Bernie supporters? synergie Mar 2017 #47

Just so people KNOW who Winnie Wong is. She is not a friend of the Democratic party still_one Mar 2017 #3

I can't discern what their true intentions are! Are they trying to hijack the Democratic Party? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #16

Just the statement ""The Democrats will be forced to move left." tells me that they fail still_one Mar 2017 #23

I hadn't noticed that... but you're right. They are politically unsophisticated (in my view.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #24

Seems more like a reunion. synergie Mar 2017 #50

That's observant and logical. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #74

Yes. You nailed it. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #150

Winnie Wong: "The Democratic Party is not your friend." We have to organize ourselves. #ydsRESIST Cha Mar 2017 #115

Glad to know a Democratic ally and progressive like Sanders is fighting for the people... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #4

Are you suggesting that nobody else is fighting for the people? (That's how it sounds.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #38

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #127

Our Democratic Party is On the Front Lines Fighting for our Very Lives.. in Cha Mar 2017 #123

Yes. United we stand. Divided we fall. Don't be divided!!!!! We are all agaist the Trumpsters' mean Alice11111 Mar 2017 #142

To be fair, some take a different approach to fighting than others. JCanete Mar 2017 #143

I agree with Wong's statement... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #6

Do you agree with this statement of hers? George II Mar 2017 #8

We need to move the Dem party more to the left.... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #10

What do you think of that statement by Ms. Wong? George II Mar 2017 #11

Sounds like a smear to me. Things like that DIVIDE and then WEAKEN the party. Is that the goal? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #13

The Democratic party has never been a monolitic party. That is what Howard Dean's 50 state still_one Mar 2017 #27

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I was referring to Winnie Wong's facebook page, and I should have made that clear. Thanks still_one Mar 2017 #36

Centrist Democrats are NOT republicans!!! Incidently, you are violating the TOS with that false still_one Mar 2017 #48

OMG and WTF? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #51

Yes, it's busterisms all over again. JHan Mar 2017 #77

"I'm not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat." Alice11111 Mar 2017 #130

You got it still_one Mar 2017 #131

The Democratic Party is out there fighing on the Front Lines for Cha Mar 2017 #119

Who ever envisioned a party MuseRider Mar 2017 #29

No... it's not "kinda-like" that at all. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #41

The antonym of a "friend" is "enemy". Your blithe dismissal of that destructive statement... George II Mar 2017 #44

A party need be neither of those things MuseRider Mar 2017 #81

Thanks MuseRider. Well said. n/t ms liberty Mar 2017 #113

Bravo! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #121

Oh I very much consider anyone who's working hard for me and Cha Mar 2017 #122

People vs party MuseRider Mar 2017 #124

The Democratic Party is my Friend.. trump and other assholes are not. Cha Mar 2017 #125

I have no idea why some think a move way left would allow us to win. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #35

What is 'way left'? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #43

FDR was elected 85 years ago. We're in an entirely different "era" now in 2017.... George II Mar 2017 #49

Thx. Interesting. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #145

Purism uponit7771 Mar 2017 #70

Here's the problem with that theory. DanTex Mar 2017 #83

Yeah and president Truman was wrong in this case... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #89

Well said. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #144

If only 20% (probably less) of the "Party" (many aren't even Democrats anyway).... George II Mar 2017 #45

You are exactly right George...this small faction seems to think Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #87

Not only that but the small faction includes some who never even bothered to join the Party. George II Mar 2017 #93

I don't understand why those are not Democrats (and no I am not Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #99

Fuck it. We tried the Repub suck up. We lost the base. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #132

You are right...those who refused to vote for the Democrat who knew what Trump would Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #147

Yep, we can chalk up lost elections because of them Alice11111 Mar 2017 #148

Wong is wrong, dens already left uponit7771 Mar 2017 #69

mobilizing the people bdamomma Mar 2017 #7

Thanks for sharing this. Guess it would be wishful thinking that it will get any tv coverage . . . Nanjeanne Mar 2017 #9

If memory serves me correctly, the "RT" Youtube channel likes to cover things like this... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #25

Here's where you can find TV coverage. synergie Mar 2017 #82

MSNBC and CNN are more than likely to carry stories/coverage. demmiblue Mar 2017 #88

Half of CNN is panels of bimbo Repubs. They have some Alice11111 Mar 2017 #134

It's unclear if this group is FOR or AGAINST the Democratic Party. Can anyone clarify? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #14

Progressive Democrats of America crazycatlady Mar 2017 #18

I just visited their Wiki page and their Facebook page... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #20

That is what it read like to me catlady, meow still_one Mar 2017 #28

The Women's March was not Bernie Sanders people, Indivisible is not Bernie Sanders people. Sick of seaglass Mar 2017 #15

Thank you for telling the truth and for bringing things back to reality. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #17

An interesting point. When Michael Moore started to slam the Democratic party, Ashley Judd put a still_one Mar 2017 #30

Thank you, seaglass! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #46

Do agree with that. Telling the majority population that these Hortensis Mar 2017 #56

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But face it, it's a whole lot easier than doing the actual work. synergie Mar 2017 #67

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #71

This sounds incredible. MuseRider Mar 2017 #31

Wait. Huh? What makes you believe that ANYONE thinks this is about the primaries? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #33

LOL MuseRider Mar 2017 #37

Thank you for your reply. It answers my questions perfectly. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #40

So true LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #152

So true to you too! :-) MuseRider Mar 2017 #160

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. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #39

Happy to see so many are still inspired by Bernie's message! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #42

Another skewed poll. For one thing, the poll didn't ask for "popularity", it asked for "approval"! George II Mar 2017 #59

I'm not sure that's what 'skewed' means. Bernie has been the most popular senator for years beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #61

I don't know what or where all that stuff came from, but...care to address the poll YOU posted? George II Mar 2017 #64

It came from Huffpo's pollster which tracks all major polls - I included a link. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #68

The poll itself isn't innately flawed, but skewed in that it didn't give each of the respondents... George II Mar 2017 #76

So you think it would be more accurate to poll Texans on Massachusetts senators? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #79

To be meaningful in assessing the most "popular" Senator would be to ask all respondents... George II Mar 2017 #80

Then you should be happy with the results from Fox's poll. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #86

Once again, a very limited choice for their respondents, rendering the poll useless... George II Mar 2017 #91

The choices weren't unrelated and they were separate categories. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #94

That's simply not true. Here is the actual question as asked by the pollster: George II Mar 2017 #95

Except each politician/political organization was rated seperately. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #97

Please reread the document that Fox News published. My previous post included... George II Mar 2017 #100

I've read it several times and I still don't detect any bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #103

Okay then, where did you detect that.... George II Mar 2017 #108

Each question was asked separately, they didn't ask them to compare. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #114

Where in the poll result document did you read that each question was asked separately? George II Mar 2017 #116

All of these polls HIGHLY limit their choices - that doesn't indicate bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #117

Maybe I can help: H2O Man Mar 2017 #159

Very well said. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #161

Right. H2O Man Mar 2017 #162

Good luck tonight! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #163

Right! H2O Man Mar 2017 #164

I think you might wish to re-read Geroge's original post. synergie Mar 2017 #110

Thanks for illustrating how this poll is fake. Bernie R B Garr Mar 2017 #129

Oh, wow! So he's NOT America's "most popular Senator" after all. I knew something was fishy ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #62

The bottom line regarding that "poll"... George II Mar 2017 #78

But "Most-Popular-Senator-In-His-Own-State-Compared-To-Other-Senators-In-Their-Own-States" doesn't NurseJackie Mar 2017 #84

I'm a Hill supporter forever, but I'm joining up. Bernie, lead Alice11111 Mar 2017 #133

Good to hear! We're all on the same team, right? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #136

Thank you!Yes, it's us against the evil trumpsters. United we stand. Don't let them divide us again. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #138

Will he be promoting the Democratic Party at this "People's Summit"? George II Mar 2017 #52

I'm eager to see what kind of "Outreach" there will be on behalf of the Democratic Party. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #53

This is a "PEOPLE'S" Summit democrank Mar 2017 #92

That's not what I asked. I'm interested in knowing what he'll be doing (if anything) ... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #96

I have no interest in compiling a list of all people/groups that democrank Mar 2017 #106

Yes, I agree with you. I hope Bernie does that too. It's something he often struggles with... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #109

GOOD answer! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #98

He'll be promoting Democratic party ideals LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #154

Who defines "Democratic party ideals"? George II Mar 2017 #156

Here's a good place to start LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #157

That seems reasonable and I haven't seen any of our office holders who don't live up to those ideals George II Mar 2017 #158

any??? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #165

This is GREAT! I wish I lived closer so I could attend FDRsGhost Mar 2017 #57

It'll be on RT's youtube channel, probably. They like stuff like this. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #63

Excellent malaise Mar 2017 #72

I'm very excited about this! There's some great people on that list. PatsFan87 Mar 2017 #90

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #101

So much anti-Bernie sentiment on this thread. panader0 Mar 2017 #105

Not really, if you subtract the people who wrote 10 or more posts that are "skeptical" of him Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #107

LOL "Round up the usual suspects." panader0 Mar 2017 #112

This. It may be their right, but it is ugly behavior ms liberty Mar 2017 #118

"They are more dependable than Old Faithful" LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #120

Whew !!! Thought I was the only one who noticed that. pangaia Mar 2017 #126

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