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EL34x4

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139. Visualize, if you will...

Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:04 PM

Mar 2017

...Someone Tweets a photo of Vice President Pence eating at a fancy restaurant with a staffer. Maybe's she's pretty, maybe she's 25 years younger than him. No Mrs. Pence in sight.

Now how fast do you think the thread here on DU is going to go high and right? Oh, I'd say about 10 minutes before it hits 200 posts.

And do you think us posters here on Democratic Underground will be giving Pence kudos for ditching his antiquated, harmful, sexist attitudes towards women?

No, I'm pretty sure that 199 out of those 200 posts will be castigating Pence as a cheating, adulterous, hypocritical, skeevy, lecherous, dirty old man taking advantage of his position in power to wine and dine naive young staffers. And not just here on DU either. The NYT, WP, MSNBC, and countless other media outlets will be talking about "Who's the beautiful mystery woman eating dinner with the Vice President?"

Pence isn't stupid.

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Pence wont eat with a women who isnt his wife? [View all] brettdale Mar 2017 OP

maybe he's gassy? KittyWampus Mar 2017 #1

... Marie Marie Mar 2017 #44

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2017 #74

There have to be other people present. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #2

Im guessing its not a court order thing brettdale Mar 2017 #5

It is a strange religious belief. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #10

" a fundamentalist Christian' who doesn't mind lying and starving Cha Mar 2017 #23

Yes, but what about avoiding dinners The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #26

That's some strange shite, too.. for such a so-called Cha Mar 2017 #31

You forgot to quote Jack D. Ripper. pangaia Mar 2017 #33

I hope that I would happen to be seated at an adjacent table just to watch this show. Marie Marie Mar 2017 #46

As a funny aside... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #56

Like many Fundamentalists! atreides1 Mar 2017 #97

Right.. and I don't know much about Cha Mar 2017 #105

He knows his weakness.lol SummerSnow Mar 2017 #69

Billy Graham used to have the same policy. Same reasons I guess. nt ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #131

Does he get a chaperone when he eats with his mom? AJT Mar 2017 #32

Given that he calls his wife "mother," your question is complicated. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #127

But if the chaperone is also a woman, it could lead to a meringue a trois! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #48

ROTFLMAO. Your response should be an instant classic! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #66

What do you expect from the guy who wants to electrocute gays? FDRsGhost Mar 2017 #3

Batshit. MontanaMama Mar 2017 #4

Beyond batshit. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2017 #14

Strictly no body shots ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #6

Probably is a derivative of Billy Graham's rule never to be in a room alone with a woman grantcart Mar 2017 #7

It's a technique that renders women back to being chattel- we need to travel w keepers again? bettyellen Mar 2017 #52

He's a secret convert to Wahhabi Islam. mwooldri Mar 2017 #8

Does she cut up his food.... Historic NY Mar 2017 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #29

What a loser RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #11

It's a religion thing Catherine Vincent Mar 2017 #12

I am certainly no fan of Pence, and may be in the minority, but it makes sense to me. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #13

It's goofy as hell, and would probably preclude any woman from working for him The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #15

You can conduct business outside of dinner. But he could certainly have his assistant tag along. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #17

It's sexist as hell. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #18

It works both ways. Some women wouldn't have dinner with men they are not married to. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #20

It's a version of the burka/veil thing muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #59

BIG difference . . . MichMary Mar 2017 #67

No, it's a restriction on the women who ought to be working with him muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #83

There are other ways of conducting business MichMary Mar 2017 #84

Was "intimate little candlelit dinner" his description, or yours? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #98

My interpretation MichMary Mar 2017 #106

Why It Matters That Pence Won't Have Dinner With A Woman Who Isn't His Wife JTFrog Mar 2017 #145

As a society, when we see someone have a drink, we don't automatically jump to the conclusion AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #146

Bollocks. As a society, we live in the 21st century. We used to live in the second half of the 20th. muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #147

Nonsense. There is much assumption on your part. He can still hire a woman AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #149

And it is our duty, as liberal people who see women as equal to men, to call out bad behaviour muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #150

No one has responded to the social implications. So it doesn't matter AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #151

Yes, he does have to. That's the point. He has to treat men and women equally. muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #154

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #157

Except this IS a restriction being placed on female staffers obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #91

After his vote to destroy women's healthcare today, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #54

Certainly if there were knives on the table. n/t alarimer Mar 2017 #87

thats ridiculous. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #25

And that is your opinion. But not everyone subscribes to that. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #28

I guess. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #35

It can work. EllieBC Mar 2017 #63

There's two different questions, to my mind, if I think more about it. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #65

Do we know Karen Pence's feelings on the matter? MichMary Mar 2017 #76

I can say for the current community I am in and my former one, EllieBC Mar 2017 #124

It's not about trust MichMary Mar 2017 #75

It is 100% about trust, period obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #99

I think there are a few things going on, some of them generational, here. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #143

I agree with your posts on this. HoosierDebbie Mar 2017 #37

It's not only antiquated; in most workplaces a man The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #36

Seriously. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #43

There is one conference I go to every year that my old boss also attends obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #94

You are treating DC as if it is a normal and honest place. former9thward Mar 2017 #113

No. Not in this case. He is just a disturbed sick fuck. pangaia Mar 2017 #34

Totally agree with you MichMary Mar 2017 #73

Absolutely ridiculous obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #100

Really? MichMary Mar 2017 #110

No offense, but horseshit... Adrahil Mar 2017 #85

It makes sense only if you think men can't control themselves and women are harlots. alarimer Mar 2017 #86

It is 2017, and these SEXIST attitudes are harmful to women obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #96

I agree as well. EL34x4 Mar 2017 #104

Absolutely right! MichMary Mar 2017 #112

But this shit is evidence of DIStrust. Or insanity. gilbert sullivan Mar 2017 #126

that's really weird. i've always had DesertFlower Mar 2017 #16

I agree.. It's creepy. Cha Mar 2017 #27

My boyfriend is a librarian. alarimer Mar 2017 #90

I don't think it's about trust MichMary Mar 2017 #114

Appearances don't matter; actions do. alarimer Mar 2017 #120

Things are a little different for major political figures than they are for librarians. EL34x4 Mar 2017 #123

No, but Pence's attitude is a little suspect in this day and age. alarimer Mar 2017 #133

Visualize, if you will... EL34x4 Mar 2017 #139

My work spouses at my prior two positions were male obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #103

Well, you know justlikeronniesang Mar 2017 #19

A strange woman won't chew his food for him. nt Buzz cook Mar 2017 #21

Well, if eating is such a sexy activity maybe he shouldn't eat alone with a man, either. betsuni Mar 2017 #22

I've known fundies like that, they are a strange bunch indeed. Initech Mar 2017 #24

what about teenaged boys? oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #30

women are scary, and he does not like them. synergie Mar 2017 #38

This is simply a secular version of PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #39

Uh....how is it "secular"... vi5 Mar 2017 #93

Did Pence give a religious basis for PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #141

I think people should just defacto7 Mar 2017 #40

Lack Of Discipline erpowers Mar 2017 #41

They're not just a bunch of deplorables. marybourg Mar 2017 #42

I honestly didn't see "with" in the headline ecstatic Mar 2017 #45

He probably doesn't do that even with his wife. milestogo Mar 2017 #121

but he will "grab 'em by the pussy" when they aren't his wife. This is about PRETENSE that's all luvMIdog Mar 2017 #47

Misogynists Club bdjhawk Mar 2017 #49

THIS!! bettyellen Mar 2017 #53

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #57

All that you said, plus him having an oral fixation. Lars39 Mar 2017 #60

Welcome to DU! moriah Mar 2017 #61

Exactly! treestar Mar 2017 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Mar 2017 #140

Pence is a sex scandal waiting to happen. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #50

My money's on him getting caught with an COLGATE4 Mar 2017 #138

That is just freaking crazy! hrmjustin Mar 2017 #51

he is a sanctimonious piece of SHIT Skittles Mar 2017 #55

He won't eat food with a woman who isn't his wife Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #58

He has this fear of Women with Steak Knives..... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #62

He's just going on the offensive Dorian Gray Mar 2017 #64

That was my thinking too. What woman would want to justhanginon Mar 2017 #115

Does that mean that deep down, below the Bible-thumping veneer, he's just as much an Vinca Mar 2017 #70

hahaha CountAllVotes Apr 2017 #156

what if he and his wife are dining with a female friend and SummerSnow Mar 2017 #71

Fundies can't control their bodily functions HAB911 Mar 2017 #72

So? MyNameGoesHere Mar 2017 #77

if he feels this wy crazycatlady Mar 2017 #78

Because: 1) Cooties Mc Mike Mar 2017 #79

This reminds me of a Father Ted moment... OnDoutside Mar 2017 #80

That was great. lapucelle Apr 2017 #153

A new disciple !!! ;) OnDoutside Apr 2017 #158

Maybe he has PGS, like Trump? Pussy-Grabbing Syndrome. AKA 'Stupid'. randome Mar 2017 #81

All male golf clubs exist for this reason. AngryAmish Mar 2017 #82

He also won't be at a function or place that serves alchol, unless his wife is there obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #88

Does he eat with male staffers? If so, how is this legal? obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #89

"Mike Pence asks waiter to remove Mrs Butterworth from table" vi5 Mar 2017 #92

Love that article. jeanmarc Apr 2017 #148

Mike Pence is dumb as a post DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #95

"Above reproach" TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2017 #101

I understand his position MichMary Mar 2017 #116

He's weak & very afraid of temptation. To him all women are... WePurrsevere Mar 2017 #102

Exactly, it is a way to blame women for the fact that he can't control himself. n/t FSogol Mar 2017 #111

The bottom line comes down to this. He doesn't view women as equal to men. still_one Mar 2017 #107

He sure enjoys get the red out Mar 2017 #108

Pence obviously thinks "Tom Jones" was a documentary where dinner becomes the no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #109

Let's make this Pence's big gaffe. Remember the flack Jimmy Carter sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #117

This guy is obsessed with fornication. betsuni Mar 2017 #118

I think he fears being photographed with a woman other than his wife Ligyron Mar 2017 #119

It is plain weird. I don't really care, though. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #122

A guy who does this much public religious posturing over his marital fidelity Aristus Mar 2017 #125

Totally off the wall...but then remember Ashcroft - and the cloaking of asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #128

It's sexist. He sees women only as sex objects, not as equals. He assumes others feel the same. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #129

Eh, why doesn't he just chemically castrate himself? DinahMoeHum Mar 2017 #130

Proves that he is... Mike Nelson Mar 2017 #132

If I was his wife (and thank gawd I'm not), dgibby Mar 2017 #134

He pops a pants tent when he does titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #135

Well Pence is a christofascist theocrat Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #136

Sounds more like sharia law to me louis c Mar 2017 #137

As per news reports... lapucelle Mar 2017 #142

maybe Trump should follow suit BuddyCa Mar 2017 #144

Wow, what a coincidence, women who aren't his wife won't eat with him either. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #152

Pence's insistence on ridiculous "above reproach" measures lapucelle Apr 2017 #155