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davepdx

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13. On Saturday's "Up with Chris Hayes" I saw a different perspective

Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:56 PM

Jul 2012

There was a Medicare/Medicaid expert on who made the point that in the first couple years the Federal Government would be paying 100% of the bill for the new program and then over X number of years (I don't remember the details) the portion of the cost paid by the Federal Government would reduce from 100% to 90%.

The expert made the point that the same number of people would be requiring health services with or without participating in the program. He said that the hospitals would be demanding that the state take the money and to not leave that large chunk of money on the table. He said the same pattern of bravado and bluster by the nay-sayers occurred when Medicaid was going online and that eventually all the states complied. Let's hope this is the case.

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Reluctance in Some States Over Medicaid Expansion [View all] dkf Jul 2012 OP

Reluctance? pRick Scott in Florida said, screw you we aint doin it NightWatcher Jul 2012 #1

No state will raise taxes to support expanded Medicaid. banned from Kos Jul 2012 #2

I know that I have a very dim view on most Americans Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #3

Good points. pinto Jul 2012 #5

They should have kept it at 100%. dkf Jul 2012 #6

This was Roberts' poison pill. n/t EFerrari Jul 2012 #14

Yep, and it potentially reaches far beyond Medicaid SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #21

Gov. Dave Heineman of Nebraska (R) calls it "unfunded". Doesn't expansion include Fed block grants pinto Jul 2012 #4

This is where Dems, POTUS, Sebelius must step in, NOW, elleng Jul 2012 #8

The bill is written assuming the expansion of Medicaid will cover most up to 133% of poverty level, PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #16

Thought so. elleng Jul 2012 #18

In the end 10% is left to the states to cover. dkf Jul 2012 #9

I'd like to see estimates of what that 10% is expected to cover. Children already get Medicaid, pinto Jul 2012 #10

Medicaid expansion map by state... PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #23

Thanks. pinto Jul 2012 #32

Nice map....note on my state, Washington... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #36

let the red state voters demand health care from the people they elected.... msongs Jul 2012 #7

Judging from the map above, there were quite a few Fawke Em Jul 2012 #34

The states that are objecting already have terrible Medicaid programs. MineralMan Jul 2012 #11

Run ads in those states. kentuck Jul 2012 #12

Tennessee here... and I already saw an ad. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #31

On Saturday's "Up with Chris Hayes" I saw a different perspective davepdx Jul 2012 #13

What should the states cut out of their budgets to pay for their portion? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #15

In Kansas, corporations pay no taxes proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #17

Those will be extremely tough choices and will vary from state to state. davepdx Jul 2012 #20

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #27

I wonder how much they can effectively raise rates though? davepdx Jul 2012 #30

Reluctance my ass. They are in open defiance, saying they REFUSE. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #19

Right, has nothing to do with 'reluctance' for financial reasons, elleng Jul 2012 #22

I agree that finances are probably not the primary reason SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #24

That's the teaser rate. They should have kept it 100%. dkf Jul 2012 #26

Wouldn't matter to the haters, elleng Jul 2012 #28

The economy isn't going to recover very strongly. dkf Jul 2012 #33

Yes but I said 'down the road,' elleng Jul 2012 #37

They are about to change the way states account for pensions. dkf Jul 2012 #38

If you're speaking of the Medicaid expansion I wouldn't call it defiance SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #25

Defying logic, reason, and the best interests of their constuents. elleng Jul 2012 #29

They're afraid it will start working and work so well Fawke Em Jul 2012 #35

Howard Dean: It's 'gubernatorial malpractice' not to accept Medicaid funds Life Long Dem Jul 2012 #39