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3. i continue to think actual impeachment very much against the odds, but...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:48 PM
Mar 2017

if donnie started abusing the pardon power, i could see such a hue and cry that even a republican congress might have to say enough is enough.


one of the main reasons i think actual impeachment is unlikely is that republicans would certainly never attempt it if they weren't sure it would work. even knowing in advance that they had the votes to remove donnie might not be enough to get them to impeach, but certainly they'd never impeach and fail. that would just be a self-inflicted wound. but as soon as they have enough votes to impeach and remove, they'd be able to convince donnie to resign, so still the impeachment would not happen.

but if donnie abuses the pardon power, that might convince congress that (a) they have the votes and have to impeach and remove and (b) they won't agree to resign instead.

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He would only pardon them if they lie and keep him AJT Mar 2017 #1
Flynn hasn't been charged with a crime. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #2
not necessary for a pardon. unblock Mar 2017 #7
i continue to think actual impeachment very much against the odds, but... unblock Mar 2017 #3
agree jberryhill Mar 2017 #6
can donnie fire the deputy attorney general or whoever? unblock Mar 2017 #8
I doubt he knows jberryhill Mar 2017 #10
lol! donnie's incompetence had us worried at first, but it may be what saves us all unblock Apr 2017 #13
I gotta say, he makes W look like a philospher king jberryhill Apr 2017 #14
He could fire Comey sharedvalues Apr 2017 #25
i'm not sure comey as fbi director is really necessary at this point. unblock Apr 2017 #33
Problem is Comey once fired has no more subpoena power sharedvalues Apr 2017 #34
comey can testify as long as someone's prosecuting. unblock Apr 2017 #38
Donny could pardon the prison population to 0 and the vote would still be dead on party lines Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #19
Agree. I don't think these unethical RWs will impeach, Alice11111 Apr 2017 #30
That could get into some interesting dynamics jberryhill Mar 2017 #4
If Trump pardon's Flynn now for any offenses re: Russiagate, can Flynn then use the 5th amendment stevenleser Apr 2017 #44
would make 2018 and 2020 cakewalk elections for democrats and conservatives know that beachbum bob Mar 2017 #5
Yeah, but thats only if we still have elections in 2018 and 2020! These fucks aren't gonna.... winstars Apr 2017 #18
Indeed. They could play 'musical pardons.' PatrickforO Mar 2017 #9
Trump can't pardon himself, so that leaves only him to take the fall. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #11
Actually, I believe he could. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #45
If he does that, he'll be out on his ass rather quickly. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #12
And go to youtube to see the film "All the president's Men." CTyankee Apr 2017 #36
I recently re-watched that movie and the PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #37
Good. We have to relearn these lessons ever so often... CTyankee Apr 2017 #39
This is Watergate on Methamphetamines. bench scientist Apr 2017 #40
LOL! PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2017 #41
He could Peachhead22 Apr 2017 #15
I have to wonder if they would give a crap exboyfil Apr 2017 #17
A precedent already exists exboyfil Apr 2017 #16
Reagan should have been in prison for treason. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #26
What's the incentive? Baconator Apr 2017 #20
A ha. Good point. Because it stops some criminal investigations? sharedvalues Apr 2017 #28
He wouldn't be able to feasibly pardon until the investigation is complete... Baconator Apr 2017 #42
I wonder what, if any, charges various states could bring against some or all of them drm604 Apr 2017 #21
I guarantee that he has written pardons for his entire family for any past and future crimes HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #22
Are you now? Well he will be impeached or removed from office so let him try. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #23
There points Cosmocat Apr 2017 #24
He very well could... he wouldn't have an iota of political capital though ck4829 Apr 2017 #27
Or he could go this route Pantagruel Apr 2017 #29
Depends what they try to charge him with. briv1016 Apr 2017 #31
A pardon would act the same as an sdfernando Apr 2017 #32
It's frightening. The only real factors that have prevented a President from acting like a Dictator Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #35
That would be a mistake and here is why. stevenleser Apr 2017 #43
Trump may pardon himself before it's all over. tritsofme Apr 2017 #46
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