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LiberalLovinLug

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217. "They" is a big word

Sat Apr 1, 2017, 03:55 AM

Apr 2017

How many on there were just trolls talking to other trolls? And how many were there just to find a place to be able to speak freely and critically after the new rules were implemented in here during the primaries? Do you actually think the majority of DU members that supported Bernie are as stupid as to "swallow every fake news story"? Especially after Bernie's example of saying "enough with the damn emails"? If you don't mean to imply that then I wish you'd be more clear. because you are only furthering the enemies plan of dividing the party by insinuating that Russian trolls are the on par with DU Bernie primary supporters.

Both Hillary supported sites and Bernie supported sites were attacked by trolls. In one instance they shut the whole site down, in the other they polluted it with asinine posts in order to stoke confusion, and egg on the more gullible and to drive a wedge in the Democratic party. And to make it easy for those that have an insatiable desire to cast blame somewhere, to overlook Putin, Trump, and the GOP leadership and eat their own DUer allies instead because its just so much easier to generalize and stereotype in order to create an us vs. "they".

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Report: Russians used Bernie Bros as unwitting agents in disinformation campaign. [View all] fun n serious Mar 2017 OP

JPR. NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #1

Epic example.. thanks for the recap, Nance. Cha Mar 2017 #2

I'm sure that Putin is awestruck DFW Mar 2017 #8

If we would but step back from our nationalist bias for just a moment, we KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #35

Don't know about master. He kicked at a cracked Hortensis Mar 2017 #43

I get your point. But consider this scenario (ht to Cha for KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #48

Yes, but no more clever than our own right in 2010. Hortensis Mar 2017 #56

Underneath it all runs one of the "big lies" of misogyny, i.e., that KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #62

I didn't see it then, King. Political analysts and investigative Hortensis Mar 2017 #96

First, yes to the misogyny... susanna Mar 2017 #139

Trump was the weakest link in his chain. Why are trump and tillerman going to notdarkyet Apr 2017 #200

I love that hat Gothmog Mar 2017 #140

Include all the sudden love Skidmore Mar 2017 #6

They still have threads there defending Putin and knocking Hillary and even Obama! fun n serious Mar 2017 #9

This is worthy of its own OP Nance. Amimnoch Mar 2017 #7

"Amazingly enough, all of these stories suddenly disappeared" mdbl Mar 2017 #17

Waitaminute GusBob Mar 2017 #23

That's a good question. The old DU archive is still online flamingdem Mar 2017 #98

Very good question Hekate Mar 2017 #174

there have always been trolls here. mopinko Mar 2017 #196

Yet they still insist there is no evidence BainsBane Mar 2017 #37

There are couple of threads every week denying the Russia interference on that website Gothmog Mar 2017 #144

A lot of JPR posters are now back on DU. yardwork Mar 2017 #42

I saw one who is back who posted on JPR that he would vote third party unless it looked close... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #57

There are a few of them. cwydro Mar 2017 #164

True, and the few that have been called out about it have denied they were ever there. George II Mar 2017 #66

Yup, they are currently demanding we primary many Democratic elected officials. n/t FSogol Mar 2017 #73

Yes they are and with the same scripts. R B Garr Mar 2017 #88

I'm seeing that too. Fake news, undermining and dividing Democrats. yardwork Mar 2017 #106

Just going to say this obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #113

Yes they are... tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #119

Some never left. mwooldri Apr 2017 #209

Thankyou for your voice of reason LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #216

Bernie himself also swallowed all those stories, he came arthritisR_US Mar 2017 #47

!!!This right here!!! JTFrog Mar 2017 #74

You are correct! murielm99 Mar 2017 #199

Yep they sure do and I'm not buying their BS. arthritisR_US Apr 2017 #218

In the beginning, I don't think he did NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #90

Does anyone remember when Tad Devine came on board? synergie Mar 2017 #158

November 2014 tammywammy Mar 2017 #165

Wow, that early? synergie Mar 2017 #170

Manaforts buddy, N/T valar Mar 2017 #166

His weak and tardy support for Clinton really arthritisR_US Apr 2017 #219

You can't even mention the truth about the rigging R B Garr Mar 2017 #92

+1 tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #121

So true! lunamagica Mar 2017 #129

That is so true. LisaM Mar 2017 #133

what the fuck? That is absolute nonsense. Their own dealings and campaigns impacted that, JCanete Mar 2017 #143

What I find silly is what you just said arthritisR_US Apr 2017 #221

feeling silly for engaging myself, after that response...nt JCanete Apr 2017 #222

What are some examples of these stories that "Bernie swallowed"? aikoaiko Apr 2017 #220

"They lapped it up" and spewed it out again. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #49

Isn't it interesting that your description could fit the Tea Party, too? randome Mar 2017 #52

Been saying that for over six months now. Exhibit A. nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #71

And that's my only objection to the OP. OP speaks in past tense. It's still ongoing. stevenleser Mar 2017 #72

Indeed, it continues. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #116

Spot on, L Coyote! brer cat Mar 2017 #131

And when us "old timers" attempted to intervene with facts, we were attacked. tonyt53 Mar 2017 #86

And Alerted on N/T valar Mar 2017 #171

And hid out in the HRC Group, and finally mostly just departed until after the Convention... Hekate Mar 2017 #178

First time in 13 years here that I joined a Group(HRC) N/T valar Mar 2017 #179

Likely that "Bernie Bros" & JPR were Russian bots/sites bigbrother05 Mar 2017 #91

It's complicated by things like actual "bros" on places like Reddit and in the tech community LisaM Mar 2017 #135

We also saw how that culture extended to journalism. Numerous white male journalists synergie Mar 2017 #175

Not only did they swallow the "fake news"; they played a role, whether wittingly or unwittingly..... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #99

exactly -- and not just at jpr obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #112

Thanks for the Post. Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #130

I was amazed at the conspiracy theories that the JPR posters were buying Gothmog Mar 2017 #141

As I said ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #193

There were a few DUers on JPR really pushing Pizzagate tammywammy Mar 2017 #142

At one point there were several threads pushing this Conspiracy theory Gothmog Mar 2017 #147

The fact is that the Pizzagate story ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #192

+1000 stonecutter357 Mar 2017 #151

Yep. Me too. calimary Mar 2017 #197

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #214

I admire your courage. NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #215

"They" is a big word LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #217

Reading comprehension? NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #223

NO SHIT Skittles Mar 2017 #3

Mahalo for this, fun n serious! Cha Mar 2017 #4

It's sickening isn't it? fun n serious Mar 2017 #10

It's heart shattering.. thank you for shining the Cha Mar 2017 #14

Yep, and look at the hell we have today.. arthritisR_US Mar 2017 #55

It's pretty obvious... go to JPR or similar sites. They are still talking about Clinton more than qdouble Mar 2017 #5

I'm still amazed how many people fell for all this conspiracy junk. betsuni Mar 2017 #11

They're still lost over at JPR fun n serious Mar 2017 #12

And saying this: moriah Mar 2017 #15

lol synergie Mar 2017 #28

Unless her name begins with Hillary mcar Mar 2017 #70

This link answers so many questions... tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #125

It might be the tendency with some to simply fail to do their homework synergie Mar 2017 #16

a lot of it has to do with "wanting" to believe it JI7 Mar 2017 #21

Sales - 12 to 16 times underpants Mar 2017 #24

I think it is based on unacknowledged prejudice. Fit "facts" to match prejudice. delisen Mar 2017 #123

I think a lot of people don't fall for the individual stories but succomb to the general cynicism butdiduvote Mar 2017 #145

The Denial is running very deep on JPR Gothmog Mar 2017 #148

dumber than dirt Skittles Mar 2017 #190

The distortion of the message is that many did. snort Mar 2017 #194

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #13

Yes, these were the talking points the RW sites were using. synergie Mar 2017 #18

Enjoy your stay. grossproffit Mar 2017 #19

Was that a newbie? I forgot to look. synergie Mar 2017 #29

8 or 9 post count I believe SticksnStones Mar 2017 #31

Bernie's silent HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #20

He's all for investigating the Russians. synergie Mar 2017 #27

Tad Devine. JTFrog Mar 2017 #75

He continues to appear BainsBane Mar 2017 #152

Then came the "purity vote" for Jill Stein... VOX Mar 2017 #22

And the "Justice Democrats" are the latest group. synergie Mar 2017 #30

Oh, yeah, that really showed 'em who's boss. VOX Mar 2017 #33

My greatest anger BainsBane Mar 2017 #40

Those people are fools. (And I have boundless contempt for them as well.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #53

They are more responsible for trump than those who voted for him still_one Mar 2017 #78

According to JPR BainsBane Mar 2017 #80

and that speaks volumes about jpr why they allow supporters of a racist, sexist, and still_one Mar 2017 #82

I agree. And it is still... jrthin Mar 2017 #102

Particularly when they continue to target the Democratic party BainsBane Mar 2017 #107

Yes,yes, yes. jrthin Mar 2017 #111

Yes. If they were *truly* leftists, with a sense of doing the greater good... VOX Mar 2017 #109

Accent on 'so-called'. n/t sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #205

I notice they're the ones who Cha Mar 2017 #54

You're not the only one who's noticed that. I've always been suspicious of their motives. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #77

I have noticed that too!..."we don't need to hear about Russia" Really? Who is 'we'???? lunasun Mar 2017 #189

someone posted a promo vid from these "justice democrats" JHan Mar 2017 #101

Dumbshits Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #25

Water is wet. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #26

I just learned a new phrase GusBob Mar 2017 #32

Oh jeez... Hekate Mar 2017 #180

Interesting...drip, drip KewlKat Mar 2017 #34

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #38

What are you implying? Adrahil Mar 2017 #45

The subtle stories were most effective Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #36

I supported BS, but could never join a JPR-like forum. Ilsa Mar 2017 #39

Every Bernie supporter I know in real life but one voted for Hillary. yardwork Mar 2017 #44

I'm brokenhearted over stuff going on w a former Ilsa Mar 2017 #132

Well, I did. For sure. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #210

Sourced directly from Breitbart or some Albanian site no doubt. synergie Mar 2017 #160

This was obvious and is still going on. yardwork Mar 2017 #41

Jill Stein is a Russian plant as well...I hope they prove she took money and throw Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #46

Stein was Susan Sarandon's choice... because "Hillary was worse than Trump" in her idiotic view. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #50

I despise Susan Sarandon...hopefully Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #59

Her career is over. She'll be lucky to get a supporting role in a cheesy Lifetime Original Movie... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #61

boundless...she is so self centered...she literally had no empathy for those Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #63

She is on Colbert right now, murielm99 Apr 2017 #203

Any erstwhile Bernie supporter wo failed to line up behind Hillary once she was KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #51

JPR had ton of Russian fake news stories posted Gothmog Mar 2017 #58

Like I've been saying... Adrahil Mar 2017 #67

This will be fun to watch Gothmog Mar 2017 #60

Hmmmm..... George II Mar 2017 #64

Guess it's good to see it officially confirmed Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #65

Now I'm confused. I thought it was someone in the Hillary group who penned "Bernie Bro." Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #68

Bernie Bros are people who behaved a certain way. I wouldn't get hung up on how they are named. nt stevenleser Mar 2017 #76

I would not be so quick to put that in the past tense. murielm99 Apr 2017 #201

No, the term came from a writer at The Atlantic - Robinson Meyer seaglass Mar 2017 #79

Very thorough. Thank you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #83

You're remembering incorrectly. There's an entire wiki page (for what it's worth) that gives... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #81

I see how he started it. But, a few writers managed to give it legs with their Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #84

I disagree with you. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #94

If the point was that Russian bots were looking to create divisions between Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #97

I strongly disagree with you on that as well. (And I'll just leave it at that, for obvious reasons.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #100

Wise woman... Hekate Mar 2017 #183

Nope. And it wasn't about the average Bernie supporter, it was a malignant synergie Mar 2017 #168

Plus a whole bunch Hekate Mar 2017 #184

K&R mcar Mar 2017 #69

Angry white men have more credibility in our society. forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #85

+1,000,000,000,000 ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #134

Many, but not all. We elected Barack Obama, and Hillary also won the actual vote. Hekate Mar 2017 #185

Obama benefitted from the fact that forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #191

the reason democrats do better in national elections compared to Mondale and others JI7 Apr 2017 #211

Barack is black? Who knew. We just became aware of that.🆗🆒 sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #204

Yes, she did. What my husband reiterated this evening. Hope. n/t sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #206

Classic case in point of a post that happened 4 days ago on JPR. It's still ongoing stevenleser Mar 2017 #87

I remember how that guy stunk up DU when he was here Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #93

Wowza!! fun n serious Mar 2017 #95

The funny thing about anarchists is that they don't realise they're just pawns for autocrats. JHan Mar 2017 #103

Yep. Got into some on twitter the other day.. Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #108

Godamn that's some conspiracy theory babble. ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #126

Its a Gish Gallop of wrong and in many cases silly allegations against both Obama and Hillary... stevenleser Mar 2017 #128

Yeah--I would feel bad for them if these people weren't so willfully blind ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #146

WOW Gothmog Mar 2017 #149

DUH! get the red out Mar 2017 #89

Nahhh. Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #104

The bigger question going forward is who identifies disinformation? jalan48 Mar 2017 #105

It's not hard to research and draw reasonable conclusions ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #118

I wish it was that simple. Most voters can't or won't do the research necessary. jalan48 Mar 2017 #122

I agree, although I think We have never had an unbiased media ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #124

I agree. A lot depends on one's sources and who one trusts. jalan48 Mar 2017 #127

That's a cop out BainsBane Mar 2017 #154

Most Americans can't think critically. It's just the way it is. jalan48 Mar 2017 #155

Most Americans choose not to think critically BainsBane Mar 2017 #167

My advice-keep reading and stay vigilant. jalan48 Mar 2017 #169

Such a poignant comment.Thanks for that.The key is ''critical thinking skills''. YOHABLO Mar 2017 #198

If it were just the right BainsBane Apr 2017 #202

'Certain' 'christian denominations' exhort from their pulpits who to vote for. Plus the many sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #208

It is incumbent upon citizens BainsBane Mar 2017 #150

What makes you think this is over? needledriver Mar 2017 #110

Meanwhile, who switched the 40,000 votes that swung the Electoral College? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #114

I thought that was 78k? synergie Mar 2017 #177

The beauty of switched votes, they count twice, +1 AND -1. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #182

Christ. I'm shocked half the posts in this thread aren't hidden. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #115

Uh huh. LexVegas Mar 2017 #117

Not DU's best day. Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #163

I wouldn't say "unwitting"... tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #120

Some were definitely witting Generic Brad Mar 2017 #137

Yep, The bleach drinkers Drifter Mar 2017 #136

Great thread. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #138

Not surprised at all by this. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #153

I agree, fun n serious Mar 2017 #156

Not too many people seem to have reached your fair conclusion. Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #162

Yes, the majority DID vote for Hillary. herding cats Mar 2017 #173

Agreed, it was a minority of what became BoBers that took the crazy train. The majoirty of Sanders seaglass Mar 2017 #176

I think there's still some of it going on. hollowdweller Mar 2017 #157

I agree with you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #161

Well, duh. I watched it happen here and all over the Internet. herding cats Mar 2017 #159

yes they did. knr. LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #172

K&R! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #181

After they ruined Bernie's chance to win,they started on Hillary Go Vols Mar 2017 #186

Absolutely. They turned me off completely to Bernie ecstatic Mar 2017 #187

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #188

See?? retrowire Mar 2017 #195

Well.... nini Apr 2017 #207

Jeezus. Nini? yewberry Apr 2017 #212

I've been around for a while nini Apr 2017 #213