But the ACA ain't really a tax, is it?

[truedelphi]

12. None of that addresses my discomfort over the

fact that we now have had the SCOTUS deliver up a precedent that any government entity can now decide to offer up favored constituents (i.e. Large Corporations) the ability to charge us for a non-working product OPENLY, and regardless of anything else, the monies will be made available to those non-working entities.

If you think the product, health care, exists in California, you need to come here and have a mastectomy. Or talk to many of the women who have had one. (In California, chances are good that you will have your breast lopped off, and while you are still groggy from the anesthesia, be put in a cab to go home and take care of the wound yourself. Despite the fact that you might have had your lymph nodes removed also - so good luck with manipulating your right hand and arm into positions necessary to do the wound care. To be fair, I admit the hospital does give you a rather nice brochure on wound care.) Or re-visit SICKO especially episodes 8 and 9.

Additionally, see my reply number eleven which brings in the entire "Lopez" scenario.