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49. That exact scenario happened years ago in my town.

Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:57 AM

Apr 2017

The shooter was acquitted. He did chase the intruders from his home and he did shoot one of them in the back as they fled, and that person died.

Personally, I thought he should not have shot at them as they fled but I wasn't on the jury. People feel very strongly about this. I would think twice about being a burglar.

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Woman who drove 3 slain in Oklahoma home invasion speaks out [View all] sarisataka Apr 2017 OP

No, the victim doesn't have a duty to minimize injury to the burglars. LisaL Apr 2017 #1

that does not mean that after you driven the invaders off your property Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #4

They're dead because they decided to break into a stranger's home. Period. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #6

Warren of course that happens Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #10

I suspect you will find that this person acted within those boundaries as per OK law. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #13

never said they didn't Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #15

They're dead because of a violent home entry and failure to flee when challenged. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #43

That would be excessive force sarisataka Apr 2017 #11

obviously Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #14

That exact scenario happened years ago in my town. yardwork Apr 2017 #49

Same thing happened in my neighborhood. Ligyron Apr 2017 #51

charging her w murder is stupid, but we have for profit jails to fill nt msongs Apr 2017 #2

She has admitted to planning sarisataka Apr 2017 #3

That was the second time that the same group robbed the same house HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #21

felony murder Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #8

If the situation was reversed and the home owner was killed. Should she be charged with murder? NWCorona Apr 2017 #9

I think that particular charge is questionable, however Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #12

What she did is absolutely felony murder under the law. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #18

There is some logic to Felony Murder. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #28

The only logic I see in felony murder charges are when an innocent person dies indie9197 Apr 2017 #35

You want to let her slide because the "wrong" people were killed? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #55

Think about it. Three counts of felony murder against someone who didn't kill anyone indie9197 Apr 2017 #76

Re: it was not a planned home invasion. sarisataka Apr 2017 #79

The knife was only there to slice oranges and apples in case the kids got a bit peckish. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #80

..and the brass knuckles were just in case they needed a emergency paper weight.. EX500rider Apr 2017 #81

Yeah, if you turn some city street in to the O.K. Corral, yes, you are responsible for ALL deaths... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #83

It's the absolute textbook case for felony murder (nt) Recursion Apr 2017 #36

Not really SomethingNew Apr 2017 #63

Actually, the accomplice dying is the textbook case. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #69

Gotta disagree. SomethingNew Apr 2017 #87

The more I hear about and from her, Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #40

Why do we give a shit about the opinion of the woman who was involved with a home invasion? Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #5

My feelings exactly. LisaL Apr 2017 #7

It is unusual for a person sarisataka Apr 2017 #16

It's unusual in part because any lawyer worth their salt would tell them not to do it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #17

Among her many "bad choices" sarisataka Apr 2017 #22

Re: death SomethingNew Apr 2017 #65

This is long settled area of the law. marybourg Apr 2017 #30

As I stated in another post sarisataka Apr 2017 #31

No, felony murder is different and doesn't carry the death penalty. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #44

I had heard it reported sarisataka Apr 2017 #59

It's first degree murder by felony murder, if that makes any sense. In OK, not DP. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #66

I have *NO* sympathy whatsoever for her or her goon cronies. Archae Apr 2017 #20

Funny, I don't seem to feel a lot of compassion for *her*. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #23

Because the "news" media is more interested in interviewing her than in journalism. yardwork Apr 2017 #47

THREE men. THREE. The shooter was going to be a victim of something, maybe even murder. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #19

No. It is believed mercuryblues Apr 2017 #24

What I really hate about this and what should be the primary ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #25

This is why an attorney wouldn't have let her speak - she is doing herself no good. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #45

She can rot in jail. cwydro Apr 2017 #26

Criminals in Oklahoma should understand the risk...I shed no tears. beachbum bob Apr 2017 #27

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: Demonaut Apr 2017 #29

She needs to accept responsibility for being the one who drove them to their deaths luvMIdog Apr 2017 #32

When they entered house, they sealed their fate. Just don't like gunners using these rare incidents Hoyt Apr 2017 #33

No. Adrahil Apr 2017 #34

The burglars did not announce with a megaphone that they carried no firearms. DFW Apr 2017 #37

And drives away when she hears gunshots. I don't know whether the one kid could have been saved, Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #46

Agreed in all points. yardwork Apr 2017 #48

That woman is a textbook manipulator who is still at it Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #38

+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #50

Disgusting! Hope she spends the rest of her life behind bars. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #39

Once upon a time in my neighborhood tavernier Apr 2017 #41

NO, because self-defense is only allowed when one is in fear of life or limb. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #42

I posed the question sarisataka Apr 2017 #58

This case horrifies me; I think it requires seriousness. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #62

I find I learn the most when sarisataka Apr 2017 #67

Well, in that spirit, here's my reply. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #71

We are in agreement about self-defense neccessity sarisataka Apr 2017 #74

"home is your castle laws" date back the 17th Century. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #84

My friend, Bulldog, an ex marine, shot two ghostsinthemachine Apr 2017 #52

I'm sorry for your friend janterry Apr 2017 #54

I know a guy who shot three. Absolutely justified, and he did it as a last resort to Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #57

Contrary to the belief sarisataka Apr 2017 #60

You pose a complex question janterry Apr 2017 #53

It's clear from the 911 call that the owner's son (shooter) didn't want the burglers to die. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #68

wasn't it also some kind janterry Apr 2017 #70

It wasn't an automatic. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #72

WTF? Now victims have to be expert marksmen? McCamy Taylor Apr 2017 #56

Yeah I agree...if 3 guys all in black and masks broke in... EX500rider Apr 2017 #61

Zero sympathy for masked and armed home invaders Calculating Apr 2017 #64

Why I started a discussion on a victim's 'duty'- sarisataka Apr 2017 #73

"[Victim of her crime is] at the bottom of my list to be compassionate for," [getaway driver] said. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #75

oh HELL no!!!! samnsara Apr 2017 #77

i took a firearm safety class from an ex cop who told us that if theres an intruder... samnsara Apr 2017 #78

She's lucky to be alive, the kids she manipulated weren't so lucky steve2470 Apr 2017 #82

The grandfather of one of the wasted thugs sounds like a real piece of work Henry Krinkle Apr 2017 #85

No sympathy. linuxman Apr 2017 #86