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Orrex

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17. the anti-vax nutjobbery is nearly identical to anti-flu-vax nutjobbery

Sun Apr 2, 2017, 02:03 PM

Apr 2017

With the added nonsense of "I got the shot and got the flu anyway" or "I got the shot and it gave me the flu."

Barring some mitigating health condition, there is almost no good reason not to get the flu shot.

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CNN: "How my daughter died from a simple case of the flu" [View all] still_one Apr 2017 OP

K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #1

Wow. How sad. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #2

very sad, it's got to be horrible to lose a child Mosby Apr 2017 #3

And those who chose not to put scores of other people at risk paleotn Apr 2017 #5

You're confusing flu shots with vaccines Mosby Apr 2017 #10

What are you trying to say here? The flu shot is a vaccine. n/t tammywammy Apr 2017 #12

the flu shot (vaccine) does not prevent the spread Mosby Apr 2017 #14

It lessens the numbers of people that get it Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #24

I cannot believe that someone cannot figure this out. Thank you elehhhhna Apr 2017 #31

Bingo. paleotn Apr 2017 #49

You're joking, right? paleotn Apr 2017 #48

the anti-vax nutjobbery is nearly identical to anti-flu-vax nutjobbery Orrex Apr 2017 #17

No I'm not. paleotn Apr 2017 #50

paleotn, you just made the most important point. herd immunity, and that is for the benefit of still_one Apr 2017 #16

The facts are before antibiotics influenza was #1 killer Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #6

Thank you. Iggo Apr 2017 #9

Actually, influenza can't be treated with antibiotics. Girard442 Apr 2017 #15

True, but... Orrex Apr 2017 #20

Even if no cases of the flu were lethal, the shot would be a good idea. Girard442 Apr 2017 #22

I agree, and I get the shot every year. Orrex Apr 2017 #23

My daughter developed GBS at 16 yrs old. Not due to Luz Apr 2017 #59

That absolutely sucks. I have a coworker with a similar experience. (nt) Orrex Apr 2017 #60

Influenza can'cst be treated with antibiotics. Mariana Apr 2017 #30

Yes, but antibiotics greatly reduced secondary infection ( pneumonia) Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #44

There is actually a flu shot now for people Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #25

My doctor said it was pneumonia (which was often a result of things like the flu) SharonAnn Apr 2017 #40

In 1918 MFM008 Apr 2017 #4

They did? Mariana Apr 2017 #37

That after it began to kill MFM008 Apr 2017 #58

Flu kills approximately 36,000 people in the US each year. tblue37 Apr 2017 #7

no, it doesn't. Mosby Apr 2017 #13

What's an acceptable death toll, then? (edited) Orrex Apr 2017 #21

It's not a matter of an acceptable death toll. That number -something between 30,000 and 36,000 Squinch Apr 2017 #28

Well, that's a fair point. Orrex Apr 2017 #34

OK, here's another one. Because flu deaths are lumped in with all other Squinch Apr 2017 #36

The flu shot frequently doesn't work sweetroxie Apr 2017 #8

Just because you had an atypical reaction doesn't mean the CDC got anything wrong. randome Apr 2017 #18

Herd immunity is vitally important. Girard442 Apr 2017 #19

then the gov should make it mandatory Mosby Apr 2017 #27

problem is we don't have a universal flu vaccine so it would be impossible to produce herd immunity Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #41

Herd immunity and vaccine specificity are two completely different subjects. Squinch Apr 2017 #29

It works against the strain you get Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #57

In the top ten stressors of life, the loss of a child is #1 in being the most difficult to cope with Samantha Apr 2017 #11

I stopped calling influenza the flu when people became anti-vaccine cray-cray. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #26

Yep, I've got people at my office who think the flu is the same as a cold. Iggo Apr 2017 #33

I've run across people who confuse the two. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #43

Some strains are Bear Creek Apr 2017 #52

H1N1 almost killed me Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #35

I know it it happens that way. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #42

I get your point, but I'm still a straight on, in your face paleotn Apr 2017 #51

To be honest, I'm normally more insulting about the cray-cray among us. :) Solly Mack Apr 2017 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #32

Losing a child is awful. Just awful. BUT, she might have died anyway even if she had a flu shot mnhtnbb Apr 2017 #38

There are no guarantees and never have been, but it reduces risk from strains it does cover still_one Apr 2017 #46

True. But the woman should not be beating herself up because she didn't insist mnhtnbb Apr 2017 #47

CDC Reports this season Flu Vaccine reduces risk of flu by 48% womanofthehills Apr 2017 #55

So sorry for your loss Sedona Apr 2017 #39

That is a report from CNN, not me still_one Apr 2017 #45

Had a shot..... Red Mountain Apr 2017 #53

A historical perspective of the flu... Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #56

Just Sad colsohlibgal Apr 2017 #61