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JHan

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93. They should concern you..

Sun Apr 2, 2017, 02:09 PM

Apr 2017

They have poured billions, along with the Koch brothers and the Mercers, in shaping narratives and it was koch brothers astro-turfing that birthed the tea party.

It is heritage foundation thinking that is behind Mulvaney's budget.

so yeah, I get antsy when I see PROGRESSIVES using their memes to smear democrats and liberals.

As I said before, "liberal elite" is a coded phrase. It is the "liberal elite" first under FDR, that is partly responsible for the freedoms we enjoy. FDR got the smear, so did John F Kennedy - just read Nixon's diatribes against the Kennedys to understand, and this progressed to even Obama - the first black president of the United States.

It is a jedi mind trick that aims to attack liberal influence in education which prioritizes science and evidence, and social liberalization - all threats to conservatism.

so yeah, we should all be concerned about the political terrain and the enemies we're facing and the memes they use against US.

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The "liberal elite" [View all] BainsBane Apr 2017 OP

THANK YOU! betsuni Apr 2017 #1

Yes. Big truth. Needs a lot of repeating. Hortensis Apr 2017 #118

It reminds me of that saying Nwgirl503 Apr 2017 #140

Remember you are also an "elitist" if you are "too smart." I have been called an "elitist" because kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #244

toxic combo of destructive envy and laziness and apathy that puts them there in the first place NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #2

Exactly BainsBane Apr 2017 #3

pisses me off - we have so many in our country that have been or are being screwed by NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #5

Guess I'm a "liberal elite" JHan Apr 2017 #4

When anyone uses the phrase liberal elite, the base is not who they are talking about. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #6

He said he was talking about the Democratic party BainsBane Apr 2017 #7

Who is he, BainsBaine? If we are talking about Bernie aikoaiko Apr 2017 #8

Why is the elite the Democratic Party and not the Republican party? BainsBane Apr 2017 #9

Yes, the liberal elite are, by and large, in the Democratic party and not the Republican party. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #13

So I didn't get the comment wrong BainsBane Apr 2017 #16

Stop spinning this please. JHan Apr 2017 #24

He's talking about liberal with power within the party that use their aikoaiko Apr 2017 #27

that's nonsense.. sorry. JHan Apr 2017 #30

It's not just billionaires or millionaires of the liberal variety aikoaiko Apr 2017 #34

sigh. JHan Apr 2017 #35

JHan I get you FakeNoose Apr 2017 #65

Instead of using dog whistles, which are destructive, he should aim for transparency. 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #218

as far as I understand the phrase, it is usually hurled at progressives from republicans who think boston bean Apr 2017 #39

yes, that too.. JHan Apr 2017 #40

Academics have it hurled at them as well. redstatebluegirl Apr 2017 #109

Yep. strange bedfellows eh? JHan Apr 2017 #155

definitely BainsBane Apr 2017 #175

I did a google search BainsBane Apr 2017 #101

sigh, and it's right out of the conservative playbook. JHan Apr 2017 #103

well the "liberal elite" world wide is under pressure: JHan Apr 2017 #106

Provide the quote that says that BainsBane Apr 2017 #31

seems strange that I have to provide the quote that your OP is apparently referencing aikoaiko Apr 2017 #36

Because you are claiming he said something BainsBane Apr 2017 #42

Here is the quote I think you are referencing and is the one I'm talking about. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #46

We need elites, to be a part of the "elite" doesn't mean you believe in elitism.. JHan Apr 2017 #50

I agree to an extent. You can be elite (brightest, motivated, polished) and not fall prey to elitis aikoaiko Apr 2017 #63

Exactly. H2O Man Apr 2017 #45

That's all very nice, but such thinking is useless QC Apr 2017 #107

I'll reserve the right to criticize what Sanders says NOW. The primaries are over, Demit Apr 2017 #124

It has nothing to do with the primaries BainsBane Apr 2017 #179

You know damn well this is about BS' comment on Cha Apr 2017 #189

INdeed Me. Aug 2017 #260

lol seems legit ! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #52

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Apr 2017 #43

I fail to understand BainsBane Apr 2017 #53

It isn't "the" H2O Man Apr 2017 #62

Why is that discussion at a public rally in Boston BainsBane Apr 2017 #67

If the public H2O Man Apr 2017 #70

So now you've defined elite as being elected to a position in the party BainsBane Apr 2017 #77

No, actually I haven't. H2O Man Apr 2017 #79

so when you said you were trying to change the party BainsBane Apr 2017 #96

Let's see: H2O Man Apr 2017 #105

How do you suppose opposition to fracking BainsBane Apr 2017 #137

Thank you for that! I love you so much! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #81

And now, H2O Man Apr 2017 #86

Thanks for your levelheaded thoughts, H20 Man. democrank Apr 2017 #68

Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2017 #71

so why didn't he throw his support behind Jehmu Greene? JHan Apr 2017 #72

Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2017 #75

It seems to be concerns about elitism from some quarters is a ruse.. JHan Apr 2017 #82

When a candidate H2O Man Apr 2017 #89

indeed, and "liberal elite" is very symbolic.. for reasons I outlined in this thread. JHan Apr 2017 #90

Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2017 #92

They should concern you.. JHan Apr 2017 #93

Odd. H2O Man Apr 2017 #94

How can the internal politics of any political party not pay attention to the political terrain? JHan Apr 2017 #95

Oh, that's simple! H2O Man Apr 2017 #108

Yes , I suppose it is that simple.. JHan Apr 2017 #110

It can only H2O Man Apr 2017 #115

Are you suggesting President OBama in that clip is pretending? JHan Apr 2017 #116

One of the H2O Man Apr 2017 #120

Ok that doesn't address the issue directly but it does provide context.. JHan Apr 2017 #125

Sure it does. H2O Man Apr 2017 #129

I'm well aware of the "realities" ... we are living with harsh "realities" because of stupidity. JHan Apr 2017 #131

I make my own "luck," H2O Man Apr 2017 #133

Thank you. This is the crux here Arazi Apr 2017 #121

Sad but true. H2O Man Apr 2017 #122

I keep being told that I don't understand what he really meant BainsBane Apr 2017 #144

Of course melman Apr 2017 #151

So have we know decided than economic inequality isn't the problem? BainsBane Apr 2017 #132

Please define H2O Man Apr 2017 #134

Correction BainsBane Apr 2017 #138

Me? H2O Man Apr 2017 #159

The question was about the meaning of elite BainsBane Apr 2017 #170

you know I laughed at this, but that's the insane logic here: JHan Apr 2017 #135

It really is BainsBane Apr 2017 #139

You are, of course, H2O Man Apr 2017 #157

I'm not a fan of rabbit holes. JHan Apr 2017 #160

I think it is clear BainsBane Apr 2017 #176

Yes, JHan Apr 2017 #180

or based on what month or week it is BainsBane Apr 2017 #102

+1 QC Apr 2017 #195

Then who are they talking about? George II Apr 2017 #12

I can't name names (DU Rules) but those who are elected or donate money and stifle grassroot efforts aikoaiko Apr 2017 #15

The status quo is Trump BainsBane Apr 2017 #21

geeze we were talking about the status quo within the party aikoaiko Apr 2017 #23

How about people quit using ill-defined buzz words BainsBane Apr 2017 #32

Sorry, to me that's just a collection of vague catch phrases. Okay, let's not name names.... George II Apr 2017 #41

So, anyone who is elected? synergie Apr 2017 #192

Are they talking about Sanders supporters like Susan Sarandon? KittyWampus Apr 2017 #20

He's talking about those with power within the party that use their power to stifle and control aikoaiko Apr 2017 #25

I made $15,000 last year butdiduvote Apr 2017 #10

That's just wrong BainsBane Apr 2017 #11

Had someone tell me voting for Hillary was an act of privilege. butdiduvote Apr 2017 #17

Exactly BainsBane Apr 2017 #22

You nailed it. They were Putin's pawns. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #44

Sounds like you're describing the 'Liberal Elite' progressoid Apr 2017 #47

Oh, are you saying the liberal elite BainsBane Apr 2017 #54

I don't know. progressoid Apr 2017 #59

Liberal elite is not a term I use BainsBane Apr 2017 #60

I favor the phrase BainsBane Apr 2017 #61

Potayto. Potahto. progressoid Apr 2017 #76

Um, isn't that ironic for Bernie to be saying? synergie Apr 2017 #97

Depends on how you look at it. progressoid Apr 2017 #223

We can look at his net worth. synergie Apr 2017 #235

if that is what Bernie meant BainsBane Apr 2017 #123

"Why didn't he say it?" progressoid Apr 2017 #227

You aren't following my point BainsBane Apr 2017 #228

I'm following it just fine. progressoid Apr 2017 #229

You're following it BainsBane Apr 2017 #238

Actually not just volvos - but electic/hybrid cars.. JHan Apr 2017 #85

Years ago I worked for a bank in NYC, earning $14,000 a year. Last year... George II Apr 2017 #14

Lmao butdiduvote Apr 2017 #19

I DO understand NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #73

drop the mike after this.... all american girl Apr 2017 #199

And the elitist SS voted for another Elitist, jill stein.. Cha Apr 2017 #257

You need a RAISE, which is something a lot of party insiders aren't talking about Warpy Apr 2017 #114

Honestly, if it's between getting a raise and furthering what you call "middle class" social issues, butdiduvote Apr 2017 #214

You really don't get it, do you? Warpy Apr 2017 #245

Keep condescending me and telling me what I'm supposed to want. butdiduvote Apr 2017 #248

Reading comprehension Warpy Apr 2017 #249

Unbelievable. butdiduvote Apr 2017 #250

Yes...that's democrats...I'm tired of a white dude from a white state telling all of us who were are all american girl Apr 2017 #198

"Liberal elite" is a RW dog whistle meow2u3 Apr 2017 #18

Means people who don't focus on economic issues where I live hollowdweller Apr 2017 #26

So those people who care most about racism BainsBane Apr 2017 #29

It appears that this user is no longer with us. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #241

Wow BainsBane Apr 2017 #242

Probably a shut-in. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #243

??? BainsBane Apr 2017 #246

Don't mind me... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #252

Three bernie cultist attacked me racially on twitter last week. Kahuna7 Apr 2017 #28

Rachel has pointed out a couple of times... Blanks Apr 2017 #33

How can I as a gay man appeal to people who think I am an abomination? hrmjustin Apr 2017 #37

But they aren't really racist, sexist, or homophobic BainsBane Apr 2017 #38

I feel the same way. It's infuriating. It denegrates us. It divides us. It weakens us. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #48

Expecting us to reach out and embrace those supporting ideas that oppress us is self sabotage. JHan Apr 2017 #100

Don't worry, Justin. TexasTowelie Apr 2017 #247

You too! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #253

Thank you, BainsBane. It is infuriating. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #49

Well done, Bains. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #51

But if one sees the "liberal elite" as college teachers, media types, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #55

I completely agree BainsBane Apr 2017 #57

That is the operative definition of "liberal elite" exactly. Ligyron Apr 2017 #224

And the billionaire class, the true controlling elite, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #231

Liberal elite is a russian anti america talking point. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #56

It's time to ban Russians from coming into this country FakeNoose Apr 2017 #66

All that's going to do is increase the amount taxpayers are alreadying paying synergie Apr 2017 #98

It's bad enough for anyone to use those words to smear our great party... but then... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #58

K&R mcar Apr 2017 #64

It's sad to see some "progressives" mcar Apr 2017 #69

It's difficult for me to figure out if these people actually believe what they spout... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #74

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #88

That again? mcar Apr 2017 #104

It's a personal attack. A clever way to accuse you of being a white supremacist. By... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #111

Thank you Jackie! mcar Apr 2017 #113

Trump voters couldn't possibly be racist BainsBane Apr 2017 #119

Right? mcar Apr 2017 #162

We are a gurgling, bubbling cauldron of hate. Well, not we, but you know who I am Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #258

You are darn right it is a personal attack, and the insinuation made against Mcar is garbage still_one Apr 2017 #163

Thank you still_one! mcar Apr 2017 #165

Sorry that they are pulling this garbage again on you mcar still_one Apr 2017 #168

I wonder they don't take it up with Admin mcar Apr 2017 #169

Someone has asked the admins before. tammywammy Apr 2017 #173

Oh I remember mcar Apr 2017 #177

That's when I changed my avatar to the cross tammywammy Apr 2017 #178

I changed mine to a Hill avatar for the GE mcar Apr 2017 #185

I'm sure from your ADL link you were meaning to highlight this tammywammy Apr 2017 #112

Look at the exit polls in the OP BainsBane Apr 2017 #117

That is true. So why is it an article of faith QC Apr 2017 #143

I'm not responsible for media memes BainsBane Apr 2017 #149

Oh jeese, are we on this again. I guess it's like the change of the season... George II Apr 2017 #128

Thank you! People who have "never-have-figured-that-one-out" in the face of such obvious evidence... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #136

Yes, George, I know what a Celtic cross looks like. QC Apr 2017 #142

"But enough on marginal issues" (LOL) NurseJackie Apr 2017 #146

. George II Apr 2017 #161

If you're that familiar with the Celtic Cross, its surprising that you made that brash "accusation" George II Apr 2017 #154

You are the one who brought up the "marginal issue" mcar Apr 2017 #166

Are you seriously claiming Skinner is providing a white supremacist symbol BainsBane Apr 2017 #181

So what you're saying is that you actually do know synergie Apr 2017 #209

+100000 betsuni Apr 2017 #211

I'd like the answers too mcar Apr 2017 #237

Thank you George! mcar Apr 2017 #164

I think it's pretty sad that some "progressives" synergie Apr 2017 #130

Great info here... thank you. I'd heard prevoiusly... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #141

Still in daily usage, you find it Hindu and Jain temples and Buddhist places of worship etc. synergie Apr 2017 #150

Yep... just saw that. I went back to read some more from the Wiki page ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #152

Great post! mcar Apr 2017 #167

Great post...I've experienced a similar attack, especially my Hindu relatives.. JHan Apr 2017 #203

It's deeply offensive. synergie Apr 2017 #213

I have some theories about that brand of ignorance... JHan Apr 2017 #217

The post of this thread! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #236

You have nothing so you resort to personally Cha Apr 2017 #182

And then tell us to move on mcar Apr 2017 #186

Yeah, they better follow Cha Apr 2017 #187

I await further insult to my mcar Apr 2017 #188

Yes, "priorities".. we have them. Fighting the Cha Apr 2017 #193

K & r. Brilliant truth! N/t bronxiteforever Apr 2017 #78

I love this post but I disagree with what is meant when a Republican (or Independent) refers to Squinch Apr 2017 #80

Yes, I agree with that BainsBane Apr 2017 #83

Well... they know stuff, so of course they're suspect. The Lord never intended us to know stuff. Squinch Apr 2017 #84

They've taken that mission to the executive branch BainsBane Apr 2017 #87

Amen. All we need is the bible. And Vladimir. Squinch Apr 2017 #91

this x 100 JHan Apr 2017 #99

the support for trump and his family proves this JI7 Apr 2017 #145

Ay-yup. Exactly. Squinch Apr 2017 #147

Yes. Liberal elite can be a Conservative's pejorative term for a Liberal "effete" upper crust. MainSt99 Apr 2017 #148

The parties have never been further apart than there are today BainsBane Apr 2017 #153

A few decades ago, but no longer. MainSt99 Apr 2017 #158

How are Democrats moving right? BainsBane Apr 2017 #171

Did you read Hillary's platform? There has never been a more progressive Squinch Apr 2017 #191

It's just a buzzword to him.. Cha Apr 2017 #215

During the election, annual earning of Hillary supporters Blue_true Apr 2017 #126

Except there are far fewer rich people than poor and middle-class BainsBane Apr 2017 #127

Hillary supporters were highly educated and had professional training. Blue_true Apr 2017 #156

Bernie blames the wealth gap on the Liberal Elite. MainSt99 Apr 2017 #172

Definition number five BainsBane Apr 2017 #174

Bernie - Liberal elites are the reason Democrats lost power MainSt99 Apr 2017 #183

Only the exit poll data shows he is wrong BainsBane Apr 2017 #184

Isn't it time you stopped jousting at windmills? MainSt99 Apr 2017 #201

We've had five separate definitions in this thread, at least BainsBane Apr 2017 #221

You don care if it's true? BainsBane Apr 2017 #222

Bernie should be more careful not to use terms that Republicans use to divide Democrats Squinch Apr 2017 #190

BS is wrong and divisive in his comment on Friday.. Cha Apr 2017 #206

If Bernie was so concerned about "liberal elites", he should've put a muzzle on $usan $arandon.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #220

I'm sure the people in pic three melman Apr 2017 #194

It was with an article talking about how more immigrants are applying for US citizenship BainsBane Apr 2017 #196

Here BainsBane Apr 2017 #197

The "liberal elite" Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #200

Yep, and they had no choice but to demonize us that way. JHan Apr 2017 #202

I'm thrilled that the liberal elite are in the Democratic Party. OilemFirchen Apr 2017 #204

If your goal is to stop using that language then you need a new title sharedvalues Apr 2017 #205

The OP has made the case how wrong it is to call Cha Apr 2017 #207

Lakoff: first lesson. Don't repeat words that are wrong. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #208

Wrong and Divisive.. yes I know Lakoff. Doesn't change Cha Apr 2017 #210

Yes the case is good sharedvalues Apr 2017 #212

K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #216

Why are we at war with the liberal elite today? herding cats Apr 2017 #219

As President Obama said in his last press conference... Donkees Apr 2017 #225

While the party should campaign BainsBane Apr 2017 #226

Believing the worst about another group but the best of one's own group IronLionZion Apr 2017 #230

I hate to use this phrase but, in a way, they hate us for our freedoms. randome Apr 2017 #232

They think we want big government to hire people who have no real skills IronLionZion Apr 2017 #234

True BainsBane Aug 2017 #259

Atherton, CA: One of the richest (if not THE richest) communities in America. YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #233

Well, thank god for the non-elitist Republican party BainsBane Apr 2017 #239

Many of the people who voted for Trump are not Republicans in any meaningful sense. YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #240

They voted for him because of his anti immigration, anti Muslim stand JI7 Apr 2017 #256

so what ? Obama won by a huge amont in 2008. someone like Kasich, Rubio, Jeb would have won JI7 Apr 2017 #255

I wish I could rec JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #251

kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2017 #254