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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Just Introduced His Free College Tuition Plan [View all]synergie
(1,901 posts)Bernie's plan was 100% free tuition, that was his idea, for everyone. She thought there should be a contribution from the family, and then edited that, and moved to the income cap.
The idea didn't originate with Bernie, he didn't create it out of thin air. This is a problem that has been known and discussed for decades.
I think you're looking through some biased eyes here, I'm not giving all credit to one person. That's what the person I'm responding to does, in all things.
She didn't literally standing opposition to the idea of free tuition, she thought that there should be some form of contribution, as I stated rather clearly, and she's been talking about free community college for some time, many people have neither candidate created things whole cloth, and the insistence that they did is rather disturbing. I'm not sure why people keep insisting that Bernie invented everything, or pretend that anyone ever said Hillary created things. That's a bit black and white and not even remotely fair. There is literally no one making that claim on Hillary's side, nor is Bernie saying these things, even when he speaks less than artfully. These are plans, policies and ideas that are out there. Politicians take this research and distill it down to a plan, with funding planks and points to address concerns.
You do understand that she and Bernie were working together after the primary on these things? And that I said so numerous times, while the post I was responding to was squeeing about how it was all Bernie, all the time and the originator of all things? That's a silly thing to say, but something that seems to be an article of faith for some people.
I didn't take anything out of context, I literally mentioned the timing and who worked on it several times. Posts that claim that Bernie is the alpha and the omega and meant to be divisive. I've been attacked several times for poking fun at the silliness of them. What record was I trying to correct exactly? That whole construction is a bit stilted, inn my opinion and your interesting reading of what I wrote, doesn't really gel with the actual content of my post, does it?
I mean, I literally kept mentioning Hillary an ALL the other names of ALL the other people who crafted this plan, and yes we must thank Hillary, and the other 20 names I painstakingly posted. Do you see any irony in quoting my including "others" and conveniently forgetting the numerous times I inserted 20 names into various paragraphs and posts to make my point?
I mean, if you're going to nitpick, go on about irony etc, perhaps don't do so when my actual posts goes OUT OF ITS WAY to credit a whole lot of people, and specifically mentions how Bernie and Hillary worked together to address a post that was literally all about the Bernie Train. Do you see why making such statements that deliberately ignore the actual content of my post and what you typed out in quotes is rather ... well, disingenuous?