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In reply to the discussion: Canadians starting to demand the privatized USA Health Care system....... [View all]SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)38. What is it with some at DU that they assume that anyone they don't agree with is a freeper?
Canadians can purchase supplemental private coverage for services that are not covered by the public plan, but cannot purchase private insurance for basic services.
Emphasis mine.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2009/08/11/170904/npr-report-canada/
Since 2005, wait times have been reduced by:
191 days (61%) for cataract surgery
156 days (44%) for hip replacement
212 days (48%) for knee replacement
17 days (21%) for cancer surgery
27 days (48%) for angiography
11 days (39%) for angioplasty
4 days (8%) for bypass surgery
http://news.ontario.ca/mohltc/en/2012/03/ontario-wait-times-leader.html
If 156 days is a 44% reduction for hip replacement, that means in 2005 it was 355 days, and is now 199 days (roughly 6.6 months)
If 212 days is a 48% reduction for knee replacement, that means in 2005 it was 442 days, and is now 230 days (roughly 7.6 months)
No, not a year, but then again this is an average for one province.
It is not a perfect system, but it has its merits. For people like my 55-year-old Aunt Betty, who has been waiting for 14 months for knee-replacement surgery due to a long history of arthritis, it is the superior system. Her $35,000-plus surgery is finally scheduled for next month. She has been in pain, and her quality of life has been compromised. However, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Aunt Betty who lives on a fixed income and could never afford private health insurance, much less the cost of the surgery and requisite follow-up care will soon sport a new, high-tech knee. Waiting 14 months for the procedure is easy when the alternative is living in pain for the rest of your life.
http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_12523427
A really good op-ed debunking myths about Canadian healthcare. Long waits for elective surgery is not one of the myths he debunked.
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Canadians starting to demand the privatized USA Health Care system....... [View all]
Logical
Jul 2012
OP
Canadians, Americans, and those of other nationalities all engage in medical tourism.
MADem
Jul 2012
#86
Thanks for this!! I would move to Canada if I was younger. Being 50 hurts my chances.
Logical
Jul 2012
#19
I've only read one thing about Canadian healthcare that I wouldn't like
SickOfTheOnePct
Jul 2012
#11
Complete list of countries that overturned their national health plan after passing one...
Scuba
Jul 2012
#14
I think that is a fact of single payer systems...you have to wait longer, both in line & for
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#17
If you have good insurance or are rich, you can jump the line in the U.S.
Lydia Leftcoast
Jul 2012
#32
Bullshit you don't have to wait for a knee replacement if you have insurance in this country.
Ikonoklast
Jul 2012
#35
No need to be ugly. I was speaking from experience and reading on the subject. There are stats.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#47
Chill. What I didn't post was the comparison to Canada: Canada's avg wait time was 45 days for
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#58
Well, I will choose universal health care with a wait vs. the stupid USA method. And I have great...
Logical
Jul 2012
#28
What is it with some at DU that they assume that anyone they don't agree with is a freeper?
SickOfTheOnePct
Jul 2012
#38
Yes, I understand that a national average is difficult due to the setup of the system
SickOfTheOnePct
Jul 2012
#52
They're getting very picky about immigration--if you're not rich, they don't want you.
MADem
Jul 2012
#89
They don't get the wait stats from patients. It's reported by care provider admins...
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#55
In some provinces, patients cannot buy insurance for anything covered under single payer n/t
SickOfTheOnePct
Jul 2012
#60
Medical tourism - the big secret America's health care industry doesn't want to talk about...
Zalatix
Jul 2012
#96
So 50% of Canadians grade their ins. A or B, while over 60% of Americans grade theirs A or B?
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#16
I was gonna say that the headline does not match the content of the post...
and-justice-for-all
Jul 2012
#30