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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Just Introduced His Free College Tuition Plan [View all]synergie
(1,901 posts)Not sure why that's an issue with you, I saw untruths and I corrected them. I was indeed mocking it, and I was also correcting the misinformation of that inflammatory post. It wasn't the OP, it was the numerous posts that pushed this false narrative that erased Hillary and all the other Democrats on this bill. It's dishonest to say that the bill Hillary espoused, defended and spoke about wasn't hers.
Well, that's the thing with bias, one is unaware of their own. You cherry picked out of context and then then came to some false conclusions by deliberately ignoring the post as a whole and acting as if it were free standing and not a point by point reply to an inflammatory post. You did actually, you cherry picked.
I've been saying that all along, but people who are blinded by their bias choose to ignore that by taking paragraphs and words out of context, in the instances where they bother with actually addressing what I actually said. I've been attacked by people who prefer their own strawmen to the content or words in the post they're replying to.
Well you seem to be all upset that I mentioned Hillary, despite the fact that it was actually her version of the bill, with the income limits and the numbers she spoke of.
I get the distinct impression that you wish to believe that anyone who isn't engaging in over the top adulation of Bernie is equivalent to "not valuing Sanders very much". I don't OVERVALUE him by attributing all things to him, which is not the same thing at all. I can't help how you choose to color what you read, but once again your own bias is reading a lack of worship as "disdain, dismissiveness" etc. That's on you, that's not what any objective reader would get from my posts, but it there seems to be a hypersensitivity whenever Bernie is mentioned by certain people. I'm pretty sure that some of the more vitriolic posts to me are written by people who didn't even bother reading what I wrote, as their posts make clear.
I don't see why we need to be conciliatory to people who are being deliberately inflammatory. Disagree with Bernie is not attacking him. He's a politician and not the best talker, he says stuff that is down right cringeworthy at times and I treat him like any other politician, Democrat or otherwise.
I did mention the timestamp in the first reply. It's really time we stop letting these bad actors foment division where it doesn't actually exist. We've never been a party that required that adherence to dogmatic faith based devotion to a personality or a single person, that's not what we are. Some people seem to be determined to create that, and were successful for a time, with punishing what they saw as apostasy.
We need to wake up to what these people are doing and their motivations for doing so. There were some nasty actors during the last cycle who were pulling some crazy crap, be it for political reasons, to serve foreign interests or who were just greedy for clicks and the money that comes with them.
It wasn't this toxic here even a couple of weeks ago. Something brought all that back though. Seems like these little flare ups come where there is bad news in the general cycle. Someone lobs some inflammatory stuff and instead of paying attention to things like the coordinated fake news efforts, the latest instance of WTF coming out of the White House, or distract from what the GOP is doing in Congress and in the state houses, we're dealing with this nonsense.