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Amimnoch

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20. Probably better that they do just go nuclear.

Tue Apr 4, 2017, 06:42 PM

Apr 2017

When it swings back to us again (and looking more and more like that will be sooner than later), they are the ones who obstruct everything with the filibuster. Hell they were the first ones to escalate the use of it back in the 70's, and every time the next Democratic Party wave came in and just tried to keep the status, the next wave of Republican minority would come in and double the use of it. Hell, just look at this chart, and it doesn't even capture the biggest years of 2013-2016!

Looks to me like they have a hell of a lot more to lose by doing away with it than we do.

Maybe next round we'll be able to just go ahead.. dump the rumpcare, and put in single payer right out of the starting gate without having to kiss the asses of DINO's, and the Lieberman's out there to do so.

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McConnell: Gorsuch Is Going To Be Confirmed One Way Or The Other [View all] Initech Apr 2017 OP

too bad Mitch isn't as good at policy as parliamentary procedure yurbud Apr 2017 #1

I would bet the farm he was in on the Trump/ Russiagate. Chasstev365 Apr 2017 #2

Shit, he was probably the ring leader. Initech Apr 2017 #8

Agree BigmanPigman Apr 2017 #18

isn't The Tortoise married to a Chinese spy?? Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #3

Chao was born in Taiwan. former9thward Apr 2017 #28

You forgot the 1 China Rule Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #44

No, I didn't, its just not my rule. former9thward Apr 2017 #45

fair enough Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #46

Then do it. What are you waiting for? maxsolomon Apr 2017 #4

The King of Kentucky thinks he is King of US. Time for him to go. delisen Apr 2017 #5

I know he is likely going to be confirmed NewJeffCT Apr 2017 #6

This. When Dems get the chambers back in 2018... Beartracks Apr 2017 #10

Absolutely. When there is a possibility of winning, especially Alice11111 Apr 2017 #33

illegitimate president; illegitimate judge - keeping it in the family - n/m bagelsforbreakfast Apr 2017 #7

Dems should FORCE THEM to change the rule. Then they will OWN Gorsuch . . . CousinIT Apr 2017 #9

That's right, it's on them if they change the rule. They Alice11111 Apr 2017 #35

Hold the line, Dems. Hold. The. Line. n/t Beartracks Apr 2017 #11

Eventually, Dems will recapture the House and Senate. Xolodno Apr 2017 #12

I hope so. That treasonous piece of shit needs to be kicked to the curb. Initech Apr 2017 #23

If we didn't have Citizens United, it wouldn't be so EZ for them Alice11111 Apr 2017 #38

K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Apr 2017 #13

"We had to destroy the village to save it" stuffmatters Apr 2017 #14

So, what's Gorsuch's connection to russia? hurple Apr 2017 #15

Same fuck who said he would fight to make Obama one term. Loser. CurtEastPoint Apr 2017 #16

Moscow Mitch NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #17

If 3 GOP Senators won't go nuclear, they are screwed. longship Apr 2017 #19

Probably better that they do just go nuclear. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #20

why do I get the uneasy feeling that mountain grammy Apr 2017 #21

Go for it Mitch, you have held that threat over on the Democrats for the last time imo and cstanleytech Apr 2017 #22

Don't even think about giving in to his fucking threats. world wide wally Apr 2017 #24

Mitch can take a long walk warmfeet Apr 2017 #25

See Moyers on Gorsuch: Amaryllis Apr 2017 #26

The Garland thing was a declaration of war by the GOP against the majority of America Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #27

I expected nothing from that heartless bastard. Stellar Apr 2017 #29

How many votes does he need to change the rule (pass the nuclear option)? 50 & Pence? 60? 67? Other? LonePirate Apr 2017 #30

60 to invoke cloture. BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #31

I meant, how many votes are needed to change the rule that kills the filibuster permanently? LonePirate Apr 2017 #34

Unfortunately nowadays, 51 votes BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #36

Thank you! I read that third paragraph and it didn't register for me. My apologies for my idiocy. LonePirate Apr 2017 #39

I just added a link to the LBN story that I posted BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #40

So we need 3 Repubs to vote against the rule change, provided all 48 Dems vote against it. LonePirate Apr 2017 #41

Yes and I forgot about Murkowski BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #42

It takes 67 votes to formally change Senate rules tritsofme Apr 2017 #43

And in a few years Obama will be a Supreme Court Justice Renew Deal Apr 2017 #32

What took the GOP so long to become full bore authoritarian? Generic Brad Apr 2017 #37