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guillaumeb

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56. Taking for granted that any state that supported Obama would be won by a Democrat.

Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:58 PM

Apr 2017

Combined, I feel, with selective voting machine tampering and shutting down early voting in likely Democratic areas. It happened in Michigan and Wisconsin. Both states with GOP governors.

And you?

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Why should we ever nominate ANYONE from a wealthy family again? [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2017 OP

The Roosevelts and Kennedys were from wealthy families and Nixon was not Chasstev365 Apr 2017 #1

I acknowledged the good points of the Roosevelts and the Kennedys. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #6

I agree with you about the wealthy of today! Chasstev365 Apr 2017 #19

Yeah. That would be cool. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #23

Exactly... whathehell Apr 2017 #127

Its not about money. Its about heart and humility. Love and compassion. All of which it seems caroldansen Apr 2017 #2

Agreed about Trump. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #8

I disagree Hamlette Apr 2017 #76

With this approach we are sure to lose more seats in the next election. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #3

JFK was marginal? tirebiter Apr 2017 #4

What if they become rich BainsBane Apr 2017 #5

It would depend on the values they lived by while doing so. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #10

So wealth is negotiable? BainsBane Apr 2017 #15

just like how we can overlook japanese internment JI7 Apr 2017 #18

It was people in the 1940s who overlooked that. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #30

people that supported Trump did overlook such things JI7 Apr 2017 #32

I'm not saying we should try for the votes of people who actually AGREE with Trump Ken Burch Apr 2017 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Apr 2017 #123

THe right values would be support of workers rights, peace, social and economic equality Ken Burch Apr 2017 #24

bs. why should only straight white men benefit from corporations JI7 Apr 2017 #26

Didn't say they should...just that they DO. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #28

lol . some "fellow activists" supported trump JI7 Apr 2017 #34

And I don't defend them for doing so. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #43

It's really sad and ignorant that you actually believe that nonsense mythology Apr 2017 #77

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #89

Romney is wealthier than trump but i Would take Romney over trump JI7 Apr 2017 #7

because Nixon and Reagan were just so great JI7 Apr 2017 #9

I didn't say ALL non-rich people were saints. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #11

whatever. Clinton would have been a great president. JI7 Apr 2017 #14

And I campaigned for her in the fall, so why would you think I disagree with that? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #45

i see no reason to discriminate. May the best person for the country win. lunasun Apr 2017 #12

What if Malia Obama wanted to run for office? What about one of Bill Gates' kids? LisaM Apr 2017 #13

The people you listed there are mainly ok(don't know anything about Bill's kids) Ken Burch Apr 2017 #31

Well, people need to run. LisaM Apr 2017 #46

there is no "we". JI7 Apr 2017 #16

Yes there is. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #33

no. many who are not in the 1 percent do not support rights for others JI7 Apr 2017 #36

It's about uniting with the ones who are open to that. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #40

i am already United with those who care regardless of money JI7 Apr 2017 #42

Is there a reason you don't want a stronger coalition for change? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #55

i deal in reality JI7 Apr 2017 #83

So do I. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #85

not really. you dismiss what many others want JI7 Apr 2017 #86

I support what you want. Always have. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #90

why are you telling me ? why you tell the trump supporters ? JI7 Apr 2017 #91

I'm respectfully responding to your post. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #95

i voted for sanders but now i see that clinton was the far better candidate with actual policies to JI7 Apr 2017 #96

You have the right to your views, obviously. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #100

should japanese americans look for someone like roosevelt ? JI7 Apr 2017 #17

Shhh BainsBane Apr 2017 #22

We ALL agree that the Japanese internemnt and Jim Crow were abominations. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #41

we should nominate debbie wasserman schultz . She doesn't have much wealth JI7 Apr 2017 #20

Naughty! wildeyed Apr 2017 #25

Once people go down the road of "class traitor" or other stuff like that Foamfollower Apr 2017 #21

I meant it as a compliment. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #35

And when I saw that language, I stopped reading right there. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #39

What is so terrible about mentioning class? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #54

I just want to see the tax returns. wildeyed Apr 2017 #27

Amazingly kind of you. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #29

There was no dismissiveness intended there. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #37

At some point you are going to have to stop blaming others for your own words. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #62

It is a vicious circle... MedusaX Apr 2017 #38

When you said: "What 2016 taught us is that nothing we did in the past works anymore." guillaumeb Apr 2017 #44

There's no contradiction between saying our campaign didn't work and ALSO saying Ken Burch Apr 2017 #48

I appreciated your reference to the 50 state strategy. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #50

Yeah...our ground game was supposed to take care of everything this fall. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #51

Taking for granted that any state that supported Obama would be won by a Democrat. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #56

That probably did happen. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #59

Yes, the disloyalty meme IS very popular. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #61

So you would be opposed to elizabeth warrren running ? JI7 Apr 2017 #47

Like FDR, she doesn't put her own class first. That's a huge difference. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #49

she voted for Reagan JI7 Apr 2017 #84

And then admitted she was totally wrong, Ken Burch Apr 2017 #92

who do you think we have nominated that we should not have nominated ? JI7 Apr 2017 #94

It's not about anyone personally. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #97

so what is the point of your OP ? JI7 Apr 2017 #98

1984 - the book: dominant theme is the filthy rich keep the poor oppressed using endless war nt msongs Apr 2017 #52

Emotionally I agree but logical I don't delisen Apr 2017 #53

There aren't any Eleanor Roosevelts or Bobby Kennedys anymore Ken Burch Apr 2017 #57

The worthiness of E Roosevelt was not realized when she was first on the national scene delisen Apr 2017 #63

With JFK, charm and charisma played a huge role. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #70

Carter was well enough off, as was Kerry. But I agree, the wealthy should be looked at closely. Hoyt Apr 2017 #58

Do you seriously think all rich people are like Trump?! lunatica Apr 2017 #60

Should we also limit our voters to the non-rich? delisen Apr 2017 #64

There's not that many rich voters, so even if that were possible-and it isn't-it wouldn't harm us. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #101

except the non rich that voted trump did more harm than any rich that didn't JI7 Apr 2017 #110

"we will need a candidate unlike any we have ever nominated anymore"? George II Apr 2017 #65

Actually, neither was. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #107

Exactly my point, you said though that.... George II Apr 2017 #119

Well, there once was a Joe Biden we could have had. And a John Edwards who doomed his own career. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #66

Edwards talked a good talk BainsBane Apr 2017 #68

I'm not so sure infidelity is a good way to judge a person's attitude about the poor. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #69

No, when he went to work for a hedge fund to learn about financial markets & poverty tammywammy Apr 2017 #71

I'm a Democrat because I believe in the haves helping the have-nots. I can draw a distinction WinkyDink Apr 2017 #120

This was before the infidelity became known BainsBane Apr 2017 #75

agree, and he is the one who said he joined the hedge fund to learn about poverty JI7 Apr 2017 #82

I felt the same way. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #87

Biden kept dooming his OWN career, too. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #73

Many people still don't forgive him over the Anita Hill issue. As to the plagiarized speech... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #105

We need people from all levels to run. alarimer Apr 2017 #67

I worked on a house campaign for a middle class business owner. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #74

Yes, being wealthy gives you a great advantage in time. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #106

NC state reps get $13k a year Worktodo Apr 2017 #111

In practice, I know it isn't easy. alarimer Apr 2017 #118

This is where we should be able to rely more on the DNC... NCTraveler Apr 2017 #121

seems a sure fire way to become disappointed ... JHan Apr 2017 #78

When you call Kennedy a hard line cold warrior is that a complaint? GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #79

Because they might be the best candidate? onenote Apr 2017 #80

The wealthy and the wealthiest are completely out of touch with humanity. democratisphere Apr 2017 #81

How about those who spend two years working in the Peace Corps? Are they all completely pnwmom Apr 2017 #114

Who are "those"? Chris Mathews? democratisphere Apr 2017 #115

I was thinking of this person: pnwmom Apr 2017 #130

This has to be about a Clinton, but the only one who comes close to being raised in wealth betsuni Apr 2017 #88

It's not about a Clinton. It's about whoever we might consider in the future. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #93

The only ones being "raised in luxury" are the vulgar rich like Trumps and Kardashians. betsuni Apr 2017 #99

i'm wondering the same thing JI7 Apr 2017 #102

I think this game is called Extreme False Equivalency. betsuni Apr 2017 #103

I think you are spot on. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #122

Ridiculous broad brush nini Apr 2017 #104

Elected officials have low low salaries Worktodo Apr 2017 #108

You've got a valid point. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #109

Yeah I worked for a guy many years ago... Worktodo Apr 2017 #112

Suppose that a person from a wealthy family had worked hard his whole life pnwmom Apr 2017 #113

It's easier (and more comforting I guess) to beg for scraps than to have the people lead ck4829 Apr 2017 #116

I care more get the red out Apr 2017 #117

This one took a little effort. lol. Just kidding. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #124

Let's judge folks by the content of their character and not the size of their assets. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #125

Because that might be our best available option at the time. Orsino Apr 2017 #126

Your dismissal of FDR as a "class traitor" and a "one off," whathehell Apr 2017 #128

I might support Bill Gates if he ever ran... tinrobot Apr 2017 #129