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grantcart

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39. You are obviously an enthusiast.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:07 PM
Apr 2017

Your logic that underage use will decline because its no longer forbidden is based on the mistaken premise that over time the status quo will remain the same and other factors will not be introduced. That is unlikely to happen.

The most likely outcome is that increased use will lead to national legalization. Once it is nationally legal powerful commercial forces will lead to advertising and marketing. Celebrities, sports stars and athletes will endorse and the most likely outcome is that there will be increased underage consumption.

That is not an argument not to legalize, there really is no other choice. Arguing that the decrease in underage usage in Colorado is a compelling reason for legalization is a weak argument in my opinion because a) its too premature to really know b) if the trend reverses then it would be a reason to criminalize pot, which isn't going to happen.

In any case the discussion is off point on the larger question "will it effect the political engagement of younger people". When I was in high school there were people who wanted to drink and smoke weed and those that were motivated to stand in the freezing snow to protest the war. We were engaged primarily because of the war and it became a lifelong reflex. Since the Iraq War and up to today I have attended dozens of demonstrations and they are overwhelming attended by white hairs.

Do I think that wide spread use of pot will decrease political activism by a large number of young people? No, I think that computer games has already done that. Turns out a play station is the opiate of the masses not religion. If underage pot smoking becomes endemic I think it will have an impact on the number of hours adolescents play "Call of Duty".

Can you imagine if somebody like Trump tried this shit in 1976? There would be massive and constant demonstrations, not because we are better than today's generation but because we were woken up by Vietnam.

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About damn time Egnever Apr 2017 #1
How long till the rw's love of money trump's their hatred of minorities? NightWatcher Apr 2017 #2
I know a lot of white people with money that toke HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #53
Thats all? voteearlyvoteoften Apr 2017 #3
Meanwhile in New York, it's "Compassionate" Care Act costs hundreds in administrative visit fees EarthFirst Apr 2017 #4
...and ZERO expenses paid by your insurance provider. EarthFirst Apr 2017 #5
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This worries me...we need all Dems and progressives to be awake and aware, not tuning out right now adigal Apr 2017 #6
You honestly believe that cannabis use equates a complacent population? EarthFirst Apr 2017 #7
If abused, absolutely. My very smart son became a lazy, unambitious kid adigal Apr 2017 #8
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Illegal pot. But I know it was homegrown, so nothing else was in it adigal Apr 2017 #12
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Decreased in Colorado but increased in Washington grantcart Apr 2017 #35
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You are obviously an enthusiast. grantcart Apr 2017 #39
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Participation in Oregon, particularly Portland area doesn't reflect national grantcart Apr 2017 #44
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That wasn't my point, I thought weed use would decrease playing of electronic games and that grantcart Apr 2017 #49
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The statistics do not bode well for you... EarthFirst Apr 2017 #17
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I tend to agree. nt EarthFirst Apr 2017 #22
I live in the great state of Maryland. GWC58 Apr 2017 #42
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I've noticed that too crazycatlady Apr 2017 #63
BTW, I am also a substance abuse counselor, I know all the latest stats adigal Apr 2017 #19
Will do! EarthFirst Apr 2017 #21
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Why on earth would anyone WANT to be "engaged"? MindPilot Apr 2017 #62
Maybe the pot was a symptom of something bigger Yavin4 Apr 2017 #40
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Obviously, getting high doesn't teach you manners and how to respond without cursing. adigal Apr 2017 #13
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I have the facts...and addicts don't speak to me as disrespectfully as you do to a stranger adigal Apr 2017 #20
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That's the problem Calculating Apr 2017 #29
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I take opioids for chronic pain and GWC58 Apr 2017 #43
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Pain relief is a key factor but, hey GWC58 Apr 2017 #56
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Yeah, it was pretty much a GWC58 Apr 2017 #59
No wonder you are so biased, you get a paycheck for it. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #66
+1 LWolf Apr 2017 #61
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I can tell you that! GWC58 Apr 2017 #60
Does it worry you that states with legal weed have fewer drug deaths? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #38
You really need to not think "Reefer Madness" is a documentary obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #58
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We sure do. snort Apr 2017 #28
Awesome HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #14
Good, we need it...huge budget shortfall here. CanonRay Apr 2017 #26
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That was me, sorry. My bad. Qutzupalotl Apr 2017 #27
LOL, you win the internet today! Nt KatyMan Apr 2017 #34
When we drove from WA to OR MFM008 Apr 2017 #51
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we were going to go in MFM008 Apr 2017 #54
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we recently found MFM008 Apr 2017 #64
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The impressive part of that number comes when you understand the weed business jmowreader Apr 2017 #65
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