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In reply to the discussion: When did so many (not all) "christians" become hateful psychopaths? [View all]Igel
(37,483 posts)"so I could smile knowing that they would pay for their heinous sins."
Yet I really doubt Jesus got pleasure out of suffering. Even when he was crucificied, he asked that they be forgiven. He wanted not punishment, but repentance.
We all have a way to go. One step is not casting Jesus (or God) in our mold. It's easy enough to do.
Oddly, I was going to argue point by point but I don't think it's worth it. It's their book, not yours, so it would be like arguing about the Qur'aan with a Mormon.
The more important point is that the book that you're talking about has a number of interpretations. Some are more plausible than others; some take quite a bit of contortion to get to. Yours requires a bit of contortion, yet you think it's the one true interpretation. Then, having decided on what others believe because, well, that's the interpretation you'd like them to believe, you condemn them for not abiding by your beliefs about what they believe. Sound silly? Good.
I know people who are dead set against food stamps and Medicare. They despise the ACA. Yet they give upwards of $5k a year to help the poor, plus money to help those in their church or even just known to those in the church that are sick. This is in addition to taxes, in addition to visiting the sick every week, in addition to food drives and clothes drives and book drives. Most of what they do is anonymous--nobody knows who, exactly, provided the 50 lbs of beef or the envelope with $800 in it to cover the rent, but it's local. The helpers know the helped, and vice-versa. It makes for reliance of the poor and sick on their community, not on the ministers or on the government. That's sort of nice. Oh--and the money given directly to the poor and sick? Not tax deductible.
They take salvation to be personal. They will be saved or damned, not all of society. There is no "social salvation".
Not all churches are like this. But if you just dropped by this church you wouldn't see all the charity. You have to get to know the people first, and that requires being open minded. And being willing to sit and eat with those you consider "sinners." Eh, it's a Christian thing.