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Tierra_y_Libertad

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89. Why? See the OP.

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 12:16 AM

Jul 2012

We have two capitalist parties who are beholden to the monied interests who pay them well with bribes..er...campaign contributions.

Unfortunately, the "Big Tent" is bought and paid for by the capitalists and run by their lackeys.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams

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Corporate party A and Corporate party B [View all] Pharaoh Jul 2012 OP

More of the bullshit false-equivalency meme that gave us Bush in 2000 scheming daemons Jul 2012 #1

There ARE real differences between the 2 parties Quantess Jul 2012 #3

Differences? Indeed. RufusTFirefly Jul 2012 #31

well put arely staircase Jul 2012 #73

The Supreme Court gave us Bush in 2000 sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #6

+1 But . . . freedom fighter jh Jul 2012 #17

I put the blame on third party idiocy like is spouted in the OP n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #21

The blame for Bush stealing the election belongs only to the USSC. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #60

no nader deserves some and gore deserves some arely staircase Jul 2012 #74

Gore won the election, so obviously he succeeded in overcoming sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #95

nader put florida within steeling distance (imho) nt arely staircase Jul 2012 #100

Repuke-bad corporation vs Democratic-good corporation. L0oniX Jul 2012 #15

I wish I could rec individual posts in a fail thread GarroHorus Jul 2012 #19

+ 1 ~ They're looking for another win a la GWBush BlueCaliDem Jul 2012 #62

Oversimplification... Permanut Jul 2012 #2

under simplification the majority of americans wanted single payer they got joelz Jul 2012 #4

"There is no substantial difference between Obama and Romney" Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #9

There are MANY substantial differences between President Obama and Rmoney. Many. Raster Jul 2012 #12

A rose by any other name still smells..... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #26

Because Al Gore would have invaded Iraq... alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #5

Joe Lieberman would not have urged him to go to war with Iraq? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #7

Are you implying that Iraq was a threat to Israel? How? aquart Jul 2012 #37

Are you out of your mind??? I want some proof of that false allegation please. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #61

Any criticism of Joe Lieberman is anti-semitic? hay rick Jul 2012 #63

Thank you. Pretty stunning and totally false allegation sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #102

there may be a dime's worth of difference, but that's about it. nt StarryNight Jul 2012 #8

Lots of bullshit gets posted on facebook... SidDithers Jul 2012 #10

Because he wants people to vote against Democrats. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #11

If I could rec a post in a fail thread, I'd rec yours. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #23

Look for more of this stuff as we get closer to the election. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #99

He's trying to piss you off. L0oniX Jul 2012 #13

Bullshit? Chomsky is one of the few voices that actually speaks the truth in this country. white_wolf Jul 2012 #47

Funy, I have yet to see Chomsky say much of anything that was true. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #56

His decades of distinguished work just sank like the Titanic. pa28 Jul 2012 #76

Ever hear of Sen Feinstein? Iggy Jul 2012 #78

Ever hear of reality? GarroHorus Jul 2012 #79

Yes, one of the most respected men in his field is a "moron." white_wolf Jul 2012 #86

Are you sure you are in the right place? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #101

But..but..we do get to vote for "not as bad". Not "good" mind you, but "not as bad". Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #14

Aren't we voting for corporations either way? L0oniX Jul 2012 #16

Not directly, you silly. Just for their employees. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #20

My bad. L0oniX Jul 2012 #32

Fail thread is EPIC FAIL n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #18

Thanks for reminding me to rec it. Rec'd for Chomsky sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #103

Lots of people hate Chomsky ...doesn't matter to them if he is right. L0oniX Jul 2012 #22

Chomsky is almost always WRONG n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #24

Enjoy your stay here. L0oniX Jul 2012 #28

Did you forget the sarcasm smiley? marmar Jul 2012 #30

No, Chomsky is a fucking idiot and almost always wrong. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #34

Umm, okay. marmar Jul 2012 #36

Obviously some have come here from CluelessUnderground.duh L0oniX Jul 2012 #64

I know. It's all rather funny, in a tragicomic kind of way. marmar Jul 2012 #65

Chomsky is (EEEK!!) Too liberal!! Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #25

Know what would be even funnier? If Chomsky could get elected dogcatcher. ANYWHERE! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #29

Chomsky isn't a politician. And, he's too damned honest to be a successful one. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #35

"Too honest"? Translation: If you can't do? Critcize. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #40

Alas, we have a government made up of electable scoundrels. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #70

Do me a favor? Please tell me what it is that liberals do between presidential elections? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #82

I'm not angry, I'm amused. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #84

You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that this BIG tent is your personal.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #87

Why? See the OP. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #89

Aren't they all dead? How far back you wanna take us? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #91

Noam Chomsky is dead?? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #93

When you get a rebuttal like #90 rudycantfail Jul 2012 #106

Oh, it matters to them, they hate Chomsky because he *is* correct. n/t Fumesucker Jul 2012 #51

Right on Noam! Marrah_G Jul 2012 #27

It's interesting how posts promoting third party movements are allowed to stand on DU GarroHorus Jul 2012 #33

Are you fearful that the OP might effect your vote? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #38

ANYBODY who is not 100% behind Obama and is posting on this forum is my enemy. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #44

Spare us the GW Bush ultimatum bullshit.....You can be completely behind Obama..... marmar Jul 2012 #46

That's the kind of shit that lead to Holder being held in contempt. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #49

'createds a climate where the right is emboldened for this sort of shit' marmar Jul 2012 #54

Cenk Uygur, Noam Chomsky, David Sirota, and idiots like them are the problem. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #57

So Noam Chomsky forced 17 Dems to vote to hold Eric Holder in contempt? marmar Jul 2012 #58

It seems to me that it is you that is the problem. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #94

Maybe that's why the membership here is so low leftstreet Jul 2012 #50

Good point GarroHorus Jul 2012 #52

How about 99%? 85%? 44%? Or, are you a complete "purist" and only 100% is good enough? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #71

Right now, 100% is imperative. Anything less makes the person my enemy. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #75

That's just loco. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #80

That's a DUzy! rudycantfail Jul 2012 #107

And, you're calling others "purists"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #85

Save that rightwing 'with us or against us' sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #104

The OP is not promoting a third party movement. progressoid Jul 2012 #96

Any post making the "Republicans and Democrats are the same" bullshit argument,... GarroHorus Jul 2012 #97

In your opinion. progressoid Jul 2012 #98

Once again Chomsky speaks the truth. white_wolf Jul 2012 #39

You know what they say...."wish in one hand......" Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #42

I recced iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #41

In case you didn't notice, there are tons of parties. They're completely unelectable, but.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #43

and are DIRECTLY responsible for 8 years of Bush. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #45

Exactly. nt Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #81

Correct assessment. DeSwiss Jul 2012 #48

Same as Gore Vidal's "money party"---but with Citizens United one side is getting all the corporate McCamy Taylor Jul 2012 #53

I understand the point, BUT... AynRandCollectedSS Jul 2012 #55

No-one's stopping you breaking free of the Democratic Party muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #59

Corporate party D and Corporate party R RevStPatrick Jul 2012 #66

More true today than any time I can remember... kentuck Jul 2012 #67

Corporations OWN the GOP and RENT the Dems. ErikJ Jul 2012 #68

T. Hartmann video- There's a Major Difference in the Two Party Platforms ErikJ Jul 2012 #69

I find the fact that Chomsky's critics Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #72

Yep, lots of people have noticed that. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #105

Ok if there is really no difference Drale Jul 2012 #77

yay, more anti-dem bullshit on DU... take it over to the treebaggers, they'll love it. dionysus Jul 2012 #83

Yeah sure. Both parties are the same, so why bother to vote? Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #88

So do what, close all businesses? treestar Jul 2012 #92

Critical Observations are far more valid than Blind Political masterbation... dtom67 Jul 2012 #108

Chomsky is of course right, but he endorsed Obama. joshcryer Jul 2012 #109

occupy. -eom Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #110

Chomsky is a recognized expert at linguistics. MineralMan Jul 2012 #111

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