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In reply to the discussion: Dear Susan Sarandon: [View all]still_one
(98,883 posts)opposite, and they based it on intentional lies and distortions about Hillary
11 days before the election, when Comey sent the letter to the republicans in Congress, MSNBC was the first network to report as "Breaking News, the email investigation had been reopened". THAT WAS A LIE. MSNBC then proceeded to parade across their screen for over an hour every right wing politician to propagate that LIE. Soon CNN and all the other major networks joined in that LIE.
A few days later, Bret Baier, of fox news, reported that "according to his sources in the FBI, an indictment was imminent against the Clinton Foundation". THAT WAS A LIE, and other networks joined in the common refrain. Two days later Mr. Baier came back and apologized and said he was mistaken about the Clinton Foundation. That was nice of him, and even Rachael Maddow was gushing all over Mr. Baier's apology saying every one makes mistakes, and "it was so courageous for him to admit it".
Of course the damage was already done by then. Hillary was leading before "every media outlet", which you falsely characterized as "backing her", propagated these lies and distortions.
Perhaps you missed the Matt Lauer interveiw, or the other double standards that the media applied.
Those who voted for Jill Stein, knew that the only thing voting for her would do is hurt Hillary, and they also knew that especially after the Comey interference the election was close, because the polls reflected it. This wasn't rocket science. It also wasn't a mystery that the Supreme Court was at stake, along with the environment, civil rights, etc. So anyone of those self-identifed progressives who voted for Jill Stein knew they were NOT voting for those issues that they claim they hold so dearly, but hoping to propel trump into the white house.
Hillary lost Michigan by .3%. Jill Stein received 1% of the vote. Similar results in Wisconsin, and the other critical swing states.
Perhaps Noam Chomsky said it best
Progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a bad mistake
I think they [made] a bad mistake, said Chomsky, who reiterated that its important to keep a greater evil from obtaining power, even if youre not thrilled with the alternative. I didnt like Clinton at all, but her positions are much better than Trumps on every issue I can think of.
Chomsky also attacked the arguments made by philosopher Slavoj Zizek, who argued that Trumps election would at least shake up the system and provide a real rallying point for the left.
[Zizek makes a] terrible point, Chomsky told Hasan. It was the same point that people like him said about Hitler in the early 30s
hell shake up the system in bad ways.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/noam-chomsky-progressives-who-refused-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake/