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JHan

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102. Lay off the hyperbole

Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:45 PM

Apr 2017

Since you're curious, I dislike glib dismissals of "intervention" by Americans who have no idea what living under a brutal regime feels like or what being the victim of sectarian violence is like. There is no perfect pacifist or militaristic solution to these conflicts. I don't know what the best course of action should be for Syria.

When it was clear the Assad regime was targeting Syrians, the international community stood by as Syria dissolved into chaos. Now Assad is in a strong position, backed by Russia. The longer the international community took to nip the problem in the bud, the worse it got. And that same international community has stood by while other conflicts brew and brim over in other places. Glib dismissals and " not our problem" attitudes are why these conflicts spiral out of control in the first place.

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Dear Susan Sarandon: [View all] NurseJackie Apr 2017 OP

My sentiments exactly! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #1

I gotta say she's killing it as Bette Davis. forgotmylogin Apr 2017 #29

Feud Liberalagogo Apr 2017 #67

Funny how I see it completely opposite. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #204

I do not plan to watch that show in part because I cannot stand Sarandon Gothmog Apr 2017 #135

Same here. Won't do it. calimary Apr 2017 #143

Life is too short to intentionally raise one's blood pressure Gothmog Apr 2017 #280

Same here. GWC58 Apr 2017 #278

I am not going to watch this show because of Saranadon Gothmog Apr 2017 #281

You act like she had some kind influence over voters... Callmecrazy Apr 2017 #270

Except HRC said before this attack she would take out the Syrian air bases and planes. nikibatts Apr 2017 #2

and I agree with her, Assad should have been dealt with way back in 2011 JHan Apr 2017 #4

Oh back when we had oodles and gobs of money because it was all spent on the Jim Beard Apr 2017 #92

Lay off the hyperbole JHan Apr 2017 #102

Do you realize just how long the Assads have ruled Syria? .... Jim Beard Apr 2017 #112

uhm... JHan Apr 2017 #117

Has it occured to you that major intervention might be worse? Jim Beard Apr 2017 #165

Since you want to lecture me, I'll respond in kind... JHan Apr 2017 #174

I think we have been talking past each other because both of us are do want something done Jim Beard Apr 2017 #175

Yes I think we have been.. for the record, it disgusts me all... I mean think about it.. JHan Apr 2017 #177

And nobody else in the world will ever step in and do something anyway 7962 Apr 2017 #179

yep +++ JHan Apr 2017 #181

about 11 factions bdamomma Apr 2017 #123

Are you saying that Hillary would violate UN charters and international law? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #5

... eye roll. Agschmid Apr 2017 #41

No. Both HRC and Obama wanted the Congress to approve war powers to enforce international law nikibatts Apr 2017 #233

She also said she would enforce a no-fly zone LisaM Apr 2017 #7

And we have a thread winner..... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #14

This* x 100 JHan Apr 2017 #53

So true. yardwork Apr 2017 #60

THANK YOU. calimary Apr 2017 #146

Yes, I agree on the thread winner! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #147

This was a better plan than trump's stunt Gothmog Apr 2017 #136

Ah, drawing equivalence between Clinton and Trump. Where have I seen that before...nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #18

If Mr. Trump gets his way, it will be like Christmas in the Kremlin. HRC fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #76

But if it was Clinton, she wouldn't have told the Syrians and Russians that the attack was coming. George II Apr 2017 #79

This times a million. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #121

Sarandon also supported Nader who gave us Bush Gothmog Apr 2017 #3

She certainly is! LisaM Apr 2017 #8

She singlehandedly elected Trump. killbotfactory Apr 2017 #6

nope, but she was given national airtime, and she used it to undermine Hillary every step still_one Apr 2017 #16

Trump was given millions of free airtime TSIAS Apr 2017 #21

More like BILLIONS with a "B". According to NYT's, he got $2 billion plus FREE positive BlueCaliDem Apr 2017 #157

Hillary had a billion dollar warchest and the backing of almost every media outlet killbotfactory Apr 2017 #24

The backing of every media outlet? LisaM Apr 2017 #31

The media gave him all the airtime he wanted killbotfactory Apr 2017 #42

The NY Times had a front page story, and it isn't kind to CNN, or for that matter the cable still_one Apr 2017 #51

Is this the article that tells about Jeff Zucker and his hyper Jim Beard Apr 2017 #94

Yes. How everything is choreographed. CNN and the other cable news networks no longer still_one Apr 2017 #110

James Comey depressed the Dem vote. And enhanced the GOP vote. And altered the swing vote. StevieM Apr 2017 #56

She encouraged folks to vote Stein. See Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania emulatorloo Apr 2017 #34

They damn sure cost her some votes so you don't know that at all. brush Apr 2017 #35

You mean "the mocking of every media outlet"? Because I didn't see any of them ask DT why bettyellen Apr 2017 #43

That is the absolute truth. LisaM Apr 2017 #46

Sorry, but she did NOT have the backing of almost every media outlet. In fact just the still_one Apr 2017 #49

How many newspapers endorsed Trump? killbotfactory Apr 2017 #52

You and I may read Newspapers, but not a good number of people do. In fact, Cable News still_one Apr 2017 #58

The MSM's net strongly negative coverage of H Hortensis Apr 2017 #114

That is what I thought Hortensis. It was like a feeding frenzy to "go after Hillary" still_one Apr 2017 #120

That is what I thought Hortensis. It was like a feeding frenzy to "go after Hillary" still_one Apr 2017 #122

Truly very like the "in" groups in high school and elsewhere. Hortensis Apr 2017 #197

Despite the endorsements, the media was rough on HRC he other 364 days of the year- bettyellen Apr 2017 #59

most people don't read newspapers. JI7 Apr 2017 #70

Quit trying to cover up Susan Sarandan's Asshole part Cha Apr 2017 #93

Sarandon helped gave us trump just as she helped to give us bush Gothmog Apr 2017 #138

Yes, SS helped all she could to give us.. Smug, arrogant, Cha Apr 2017 #200

Endorsements from editorial boards of newspapers lapucelle Apr 2017 #154

Are you serious? mcar Apr 2017 #57

It is not possible to be more wrong than you. Media is THE reason Hillary lost. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #75

.... and Russia and Comey and voter suppression... Seems like the haters leave those out uponit7771 Apr 2017 #129

What backing from "media outlets"? lapucelle Apr 2017 #153

Molly Ringwald cost us the Senate, House and all the state legislatures and Governorships. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #62

And don't even get me started on Ally Sheedy. QC Apr 2017 #65

She's responsible for school boards and town councils. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #142

Never interfere with some good scapegoating. TransitJohn Apr 2017 #71

You're using hyperbole to distract.. it's really touching Cha Apr 2017 #74

We got trump due to idiots like Sarandon Gothmog Apr 2017 #137

Apparently... Snackshack Apr 2017 #178

Did you see her on Colbert the other day? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #9

She just wants the showtime of it all. R B Garr Apr 2017 #11

I won't watch it. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #25

Your loss. Liberalagogo Apr 2017 #68

How would you know? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #72

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #100

"entertainment" bullshit.. the slimey Lying stupid oooz would Cha Apr 2017 #104

LOL! :-D NurseJackie Apr 2017 #109

decent entertainment ? like the child porn movie she did with brooke shields? stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #128

No, it's not our loss.. That smug ass elitist owns a chunk Cha Apr 2017 #80

Your loss. Liberalagogo Apr 2017 #99

Susan Sarandon helped make it the Planet's gd Loss with Cha Apr 2017 #103

There's a poster on DU who said the same. cwydro Apr 2017 #126

I cannot stand her. She is as dumb as a stump, yet thinks she is skylucy Apr 2017 #10

SS is as dumb as sack of shit. Cha Apr 2017 #107

Hi Cha!!! skylucy Apr 2017 #148

Heya, skylucy! Cha Apr 2017 #203

I once heard S. Helen Prejean speak lapucelle Apr 2017 #176

Wait...Susan Sarandon single-handedly elected drumpf? noiretextatique Apr 2017 #12

I don't think OP said that n/t emulatorloo Apr 2017 #37

It's obviously her turn to be the scapegoat for today. bekkilyn Apr 2017 #85

And... as long as Sarandon the traitor and accomplice continues to make media appearances... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #124

Try to keep up.. The Lying Smug "Liberal Elite" Asshole Cha Apr 2017 #101

THIS KPN Apr 2017 #130

Well ... gotta have someone to blame. KPN Apr 2017 #132

How about the people who voted for her preferred candidate, or the ones who may have been... George II Apr 2017 #187

So a lot of Oscar voters voted for her but didn't actually want her to win melman Apr 2017 #13

That's one of the stupidest things liberalhistorian Apr 2017 #19

That movie did suck. Ligyron Apr 2017 #33

I had heard so much about "Bridges" colorado_ufo Apr 2017 #47

I read a review of it in the New Yorker once while working out. LisaM Apr 2017 #48

I'm glad you love Clint Eastwood so much TSIAS Apr 2017 #15

You think nuns are liberal? LexVegas Apr 2017 #20

Not necessarily TSIAS Apr 2017 #22

So "liberal activist" is bullshit...kinda like Sarandon. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #40

The ones I know are nini Apr 2017 #45

I went to Catholic school for 12 friggin years NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #218

We obviously know different nuns nini Apr 2017 #227

My experience is current and it's very different. lapucelle Apr 2017 #250

I admire nuns like that NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #251

Quite a few are, actually. QC Apr 2017 #66

I work with nuns. They're all Democrats. lapucelle Apr 2017 #206

It was referring to the acting ability of Meryl Streep verses Sarandon, but you knew that still_one Apr 2017 #23

Completely agree with you regarding her political liberalhistorian Apr 2017 #17

can i still watch RHPS? samnsara Apr 2017 #26

That's a personal choice, I suppose. I'm not in a position to offer advice... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #28

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She voted for Stein. Who said anything about Bernie? (other than you) NurseJackie Apr 2017 #36

And I will never forgive Sarandon for the way she treated (and attacked) a well respected... George II Apr 2017 #159

That was a disgusting display from Sarandon. She should be ashamed of herself. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #160

No she hasn't (PS - I added a second video about Huerta) George II Apr 2017 #161

Thanks for pointing out the additional video. I'd have overlooked it. I wonder... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #162

Nasty is nasty, emotional and unguarded notwithstanding. George II Apr 2017 #168

That was one of the biggest asshole moments of the primary. grrrrrrrrrrrrr fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #234

Nope, she's a sucker for voting for Stein - and is excited about burning it all down. bettyellen Apr 2017 #44

The "Sarandon love" mystifies me. Lame defenses built on lies are so fucking bizarre.... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #84

The person Sarandon voted for... LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #64

Susan Sarandon is as "progressive" as a sack of lying shite. Cha Apr 2017 #108

She can afford to sit back in luxury while the world cumbles as she awaits the "great rebuilding"... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #127

How can someone so against the Establishment treestar Apr 2017 #139

Stop fighting the primaries. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #164

Your first two questions reminded me of this. Different Drummer Apr 2017 #30

It's been an easy thing to do, but Ilsa Apr 2017 #32

She's been great on Feud: Bette and Joan BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #38

I concur mcar Apr 2017 #39

Stein was at the table with Putin and Flynn videohead5 Apr 2017 #50

So much angst.. Here we are discussing her again . LakeArenal Apr 2017 #54

Oh, she is happy, you bet she is...just as happy as when she supported Nader over Gore lunamagica Apr 2017 #55

I can't stand Sarandon. Paladin Apr 2017 #61

Susan Sarandons current estimated net worth stands at $50 million elmac Apr 2017 #63

How 'bout this time pecosbob Apr 2017 #69

We did nominate a candidate lapucelle Apr 2017 #209

But, but Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #244

There aren't any substantive policy differences between Democrats and Republicans? betsuni Apr 2017 #246

This reminds me of all those posts on Facebook I saw... Gore1FL Apr 2017 #73

+1 QC Apr 2017 #118

Spot on. SixString Apr 2017 #133

Susan Sarandon is a good actress oberliner Apr 2017 #77

I don't give a shite about her acting abilities.. I couldn't Cha Apr 2017 #106

Boycotts happen when treestar Apr 2017 #141

OK with me oberliner Apr 2017 #144

That's true, though it is so subjective treestar Apr 2017 #241

I'd hate to see you in a BAD mood! Sarandon seemed to have been on both ends... George II Apr 2017 #78

Yes she is... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #86

no Denis 11 Apr 2017 #81

Whatever. that Smug "Liberal Elite" sits on her Cha Apr 2017 #97

You fucking betcha! Good for you, NurseJackie! Letting the good be the Akamai Apr 2017 #82

Susie Q is a professional Communist. Dawson Leery Apr 2017 #83

She was great in Thelma and Louise though. jalan48 Apr 2017 #87

Which one was she? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #88

Louise I believe. jalan48 Apr 2017 #89

Sarandon is very rich and seems very male-oriented delisen Apr 2017 #90

This is what that smug "liberal Elite" SS owns a chunk of.. Cha Apr 2017 #91

her biggest crime might have been to focus so much wasted energy here on DU to the purpose of JCanete Apr 2017 #95

She's a complete asshole and I can't stand her Idoru Apr 2017 #96

Thank you. Kath2 Apr 2017 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #105

To Hell with Her Orcrist Apr 2017 #111

Not harsh at all. riversedge Apr 2017 #115

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2017 #113

Kurt Eichenwald‏Verified account @kurteichenwald Everywhere she goes, @SusanSarandon & other limou riversedge Apr 2017 #116

So perfect. So true. And, so sad that will Sarandon never learn... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #119

At the time she said what she said... retrowire Apr 2017 #125

Shr's old enough to know better lunamagica Apr 2017 #155

Orrrr wisdom doesn't always come with age. Nt retrowire Apr 2017 #156

Not just her DownriverDem Apr 2017 #131

This is the big failure of Sarandon's "purity" philosophy. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #134

ON The Bright Side erpowers Apr 2017 #140

Actually, that's not a "bright side"... that was her GOAL! She's smart enough to know... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #145

Sarcastic erpowers Apr 2017 #226

I myself am sarcasm-challenged (depending on the hour of the day)... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #230

You're Welcome erpowers Apr 2017 #232

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Fair Winds is correct jodymarie aimee Apr 2017 #150

Again. susan sarandon did not vote Democratic. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #166

OK, prove who she voted for then..post a link for proof jodymarie aimee Apr 2017 #170

Here you go. It's reasonable to assume that Sarandon also voted for the candidate she ENDORSED... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #171

She voted for Hillary jodymarie aimee Apr 2017 #172

No, Sarandon endorsed Jill Stein and voted for Jill Stein. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #173

Hell NO SS didn't vote for Hillary. Maybe you should Cha Apr 2017 #190

I certainly don't begrudge her success... there's nothing wrong with being rich. However... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #196

They are those with Success who Help others .. Not do Cha Apr 2017 #202

I wish it wasn't necessary. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #213

Me too, we might very possibly NOT Cha Apr 2017 #217

She's certainly not one of the 99%, nor are any that she advocates for. George II Apr 2017 #211

Precisely! Cha Apr 2017 #214

Sarandon, and she has a penchant for supporting non-99%ers in elections, too. George II Apr 2017 #216

She claimed she was supporting Jill Stein. So we have two "options" to consider: George II Apr 2017 #212

Thank you, George II pnwmom Apr 2017 #239

I hope you learn to represent your district Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #245

She championed Stein and Trump, while attacking HRC and the Democratic party synergie Apr 2017 #193

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #199

Oh, I don't know about that. This seems like a fairly tame thread to me. I know... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #152

The people who think it is okay to campaign against Democrats Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #167

Respectfully Mr. Jake . . FairWinds Apr 2017 #189

Fairly disrespectful there. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #185

Kurt Eichenwald Cha Apr 2017 #191

Cha! You always got the best doll. fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #231

Mahalo for your kind words, flea! Cha Apr 2017 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #236

Why give her the dignity of our attention? nycbos Apr 2017 #151

Ridiculing her is not elevating her. Pointing out her hypocrisy... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #158

I posted a similar thread this week and was locked. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #163

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I will watch her films again cab67 Apr 2017 #180

You're correct. It's not she and she alone... but her words and actions then, as well as her NurseJackie Apr 2017 #201

OMG HOW DARE A WOMAN BE TOO LIBERAL!!!! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #182

I'd never even heard of SS until after the election bekkilyn Apr 2017 #183

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #186

Well, she had a huge platform, and she used it to push RW talking points synergie Apr 2017 #192

what RW talking points? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #252

Sarandon repeatedly used the right wing talking point that WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #255

Its her point of view LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #256

There are never assurances in any election. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #257

She should be deeply ashamed... yet she gloats. Sarandon's behavior disgusts me. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #258

You can hate her if thats what you think will help LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #267

If she believes she's a liberal, she did neglect all of her principles. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #271

okay I see it is no use reasoning with you LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #272

Woah! You say you have no doubt that Hillary would be indicted? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #273

I said at least impeached LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #275

There is no reason for her to be indicted or impeached WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #277

Of course there is no reason LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #279

+1 (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #263

Agreed, repeating RW talking points does not make them true, but the person synergie Apr 2017 #259

Wow. Perfect. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #261

Love this! betsuni Apr 2017 #262

Perfectly stated. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #264

But she didn't use RW talking points LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #268

I actually thought this post was about Tulsi Gabbard, given that the content and the synergie Apr 2017 #269

I didn't post the OP. But once up, one shouldn't expect everyone to agree with it. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #274

A ROAD BUMP? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #219

Susan sarandon is a white woman and she supported john edwards so she isn't that liberal JI7 Apr 2017 #184

How Dare A Woman LIE about Hillary and Stupidly claim Cha Apr 2017 #194

So, you bring up Sanders pushing for a $15 minimum wage - do you realize that he didn't even... George II Apr 2017 #198

lol melman Apr 2017 #205

"lol". The campaign is over. It's not his campaign interns, its his Senate interns. George II Apr 2017 #207

Sure melman Apr 2017 #228

Didn't, doesn't, who cares - the fact is he pays his interns only $12 per hour. George II Apr 2017 #229

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #215

Sarandon isn't being put down because she is critisizing the Democratic party, she is being still_one Apr 2017 #222

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #224

I believe you are misunderstanding what it is to be liberal WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #238

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #240

She had the chance when she was on Colbert's show to at least acknowledge that betsuni Apr 2017 #188

That is my problem with folks like Sarandon, Jill Stein, and those self-identified progressives still_one Apr 2017 #210

Why are you still talking about Susan Sarandon today? Nedsdag Apr 2017 #208

#FOAllIdiot3rdPartyVoters.. Cha Apr 2017 #221

No, she isn't the president, but Susan Sarandon has made enough public apperances still_one Apr 2017 #223

Susan Sarandon's happiness... tonedevil Apr 2017 #220

Susan Sarandon refused to vote for Hillary. That is her right. Susan Sarandon publically still_one Apr 2017 #225

I can't speak for the OP but I'm glad she called out the Lying Smug Cha Apr 2017 #237

I lulz'd KG Apr 2017 #242

Susan Sarandon is happy that Trump is president. betsuni Apr 2017 #243

She's not just happy, she's giddy and gloating. Telling and retelling a false narrative... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #248

Yes, smug and pompous and wrong. betsuni Apr 2017 #249

I can't stand Sarandon's politics, but she is killing it as Bette Davis Mrs. Overall Apr 2017 #253

Her acting skills cannot hide her disgusting politics and ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #254

I'm too big a film fan to create blacklists of actors and actresses whose politics I disagree with. Midwestern Democrat Apr 2017 #260

I'm glad I separate the art from the artist, or I'd miss a lot of great art. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #265

That's oversimplifying things. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #266

IF she is really a progressive radical noodle Apr 2017 #276