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In reply to the discussion: Dear Susan Sarandon: [View all]still_one
(98,883 posts)criticized because she is distorting and lying about things. She is being put down because she refused to vote for Hillary in the most critical election of our time. "Hillary is NOT worse than trump". That is a LIE. When Ralph Nader said there was no difference between republicans and Democrats, that was a LIE.
All one needs to do is look at the Supreme Court justices appointed by republicans verses those appointed by Democrats, to know how over the top that is.
Hillary did run a progressive campaign, but she wasn't pure enough for some
Tim Robbins expressed it this way:
"In a time of insanity, Im voting for Hillary, Robbins writes. Aside from the despicable racism and sexism of the reality show star, aside from his tax evasion and lying and bankruptcies, Trump denies climate change. Trump wants to be a law and order president in a time when crime is at all time lows. Trump has shown an alarming disrespect for women and teenage girls.
By contrast, Robbins highlights that Clinton supports the Paris Accord and alternative energy. Hillary has promised to continue reforming the broken and racist criminal justice system, he continued. Hillary promises to be a president in advocacy of women and children.
Robbins argues that there will never be a place for progressives at the table in a Trump administration. In a Clinton White House, progressives have someone who cant ignore them.
Those of us that work for change in various causes have found a place at the table in the recent Democratic administration, he wrote. It took a while, but our voices were heard and a mutual belief and shared mission led to real change. A pipeline was stopped, rehabilitative programs restored, sentencing for non-violent crimes reduced, funding for arts education increased, gay marriage became legal, millions of people that couldnt afford insurance now are covered.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/tim-robbins-parts-ways-with-his-ex-susan-sarandon-in-a-time-of-insanity-im-voting-for-hillary/
Susan Sarandon isn't going to have to worry about healthcare, where her next meal is coming from, or if a planned parenthood clinic closed down. She sure as hell isn't going to have to worry about about discrimination because of the color of her skin.
Susan Sarandon is a celebrity, and has every right to make whatever public comments she wants, others also have a right to criticize her false equivalencies.
Noam Chomsky said it best. "Progressives who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton made a bad mistake
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I think they [made] a bad mistake, said Chomsky, who reiterated that its important to keep a greater evil from obtaining power, even if youre not thrilled with the alternative. I didnt like Clinton at all, but her positions are much better than Trumps on every issue I can think of.
Chomsky also attacked the arguments made by philosopher Slavoj Zizek, who argued that Trumps election would at least shake up the system and provide a real rallying point for the left.
[Zizek makes a] terrible point, Chomsky told Hasan. It was the same point that people like him said about Hitler in the early 30s
hell shake up the system in bad ways.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/noam-chomsky-progressives-who-refused-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-made-a-bad-mistake/