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In reply to the discussion: Dear Susan Sarandon: [View all]synergie
(1,901 posts)repeating it does out themselves as someone who does not think, does not do her homework and does not bother to actually speak truth or facts. Sarandon lets herself be brainwashed into repeating things that are blatantly untrue, has been caught doing so on many media appearances. Pretending that she was just some rich old white lady knitting socks at home is a not only disingenuous, it's downright dishonest.
Repeating lies doesn't make them true, but there's that "ties to Wall Street" thing used as an attack line, because apparently the Senator that represented NY would not have people who work on Wall Street supporting her.
It's pretty well known that "coporatism" and other made up words come from people who literally have no clue what they're talking about while they rail about "establishment" but somehow excuse the actual establishment from their rants.
It's cute how the man who voted to deregulate Wall Street, who received money from the same group of people who donated to Hillary, is somehow not tainted with the consequences of his own votes or his own FEC filings.
Some on here literally do a terrible job with identifying facts and either deliberately or through ignorance cannot understand that fake news was delivered and hungrily lapped up by those who claim to the purest of the left. That's nice that Susan didn't hop on the Pizzagate train, she did hop on the many other RW idiocies that anyone who was actually on the left, progressive, liberal or bothered to do their homework realized was pure BS.
Deflection, distraction, denial, division, these are the 4Ds that were pushed by outside forces and which people like Susan engaged in wholeheartedly, in the media, on camera and in various places her celebrity gave her access to.
Calling a wealthy white lady that is somehow using RW talking points? Guess someone should tell all those people whose only concern is the WHITE working class, that they're using RW talking points.
Ah, yes that other RW favorite, the fondness for attacking "PC" speech. Gee, I wonder who is using RW talking points yet again. That wasn't about PC, it was utterly stupid, and rational people don't vote with their genitals, and stating that the people who were doing their homework to support the MOST qualified candidate whose lifetime resume was the BEST of all the folks running, and compares well in history as well, is just inane. Employing "bothesiderism" to somehow make this misogynistic comment seem somehow less idiotic is ... astoundingly bad argument.
I agree, Sarandon's opposition isn't well thought out or well stated, and those defending her do as poor a job, usually by engaging in numerous fallacies. There is no defense of Sarandon, and those trying to do so by employing RW tactics and arguments kind of make that case. She was wrong, she had a platform and chose to use it to convince people who shared her ignorance to not vote or vote 3rd party, AGAIN. She should own up to what she did as should those trying badly to defend the indefensible.
I agree, it is funny how we criticize the GOP for lock steping together, while elements on the supposed left do the same thing to anyone who DARES criticize their heroes for the words that come out of their mouths, which are on record, in audio and video. It makes one wonder at those that can't seem to handle criticism of their heroes, while they take potshots at literally every actual Democrat, and anyone defending them, or pointing out that their worshipful stance is perhaps a bit hypocritical.
Sarandon is not center left, and if she'd perhaps do her homework and stop parroting RW idiocies, she might start to overcome her extremist history of being oh so very wrong all the time.
A woman who was enabling and cheering on Trump is not anything "left" and Democrats have not been in a free fall losing skid, despite her very best efforts and those of her cohorts who seem to be so busy attacking Democrats that they forget the enemy is Trump and the GOP. These same people are also brainwashing young people into thinking their votes don't matter, that the parties are somehow the same, and other utterly stupid things, it's almost like their goal is to destroy the very people they pretend to be "leading".
It's just funny how some people utterly lack any self awareness of what they're doing and how they rail against anyone who explains to them clearly what the actual problems are with what they're saying, where they're saying it and the actual effect of what's being said.