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betsuni

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62. Well, this is a nice illustration of the difference between bashing and criticism.

Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:16 PM

Apr 2017

I know how difficult it is for some to tell. Gabbard has done something in real life. We can all agree that she has done this thing and it is a fact. We can discuss it and some people will say it is very bad and why it is bad. This is criticism. On the other hand, if I have seen a fake news story about how Gabbard rigged an election and took bribes and I come in here calling her corrupt, an oligarch, corporate stooge, liar, status quo, she's amassing a huge fortune and doesn't care about the working class, etc., that's bashing. All that name-calling isn't based on fact, just my emotions -- what a gullible fool I am not to simply Google and find out if the fake news is real or not, what an idiot!

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Should Tulsi Gabbard Leave Congress? MSNBC Discussion Now 9:53 pacific [View all] oasis Apr 2017 OP

Howard Dean says Gabbard's a disgrace. oasis Apr 2017 #1

for what reasons? Does he explain? elleng Apr 2017 #3

For Gabbard to doubt whether Assad has used chemical weapons oasis Apr 2017 #5

Thanks elleng Apr 2017 #6

Didn't realize explanation was even necessary. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author synergie Apr 2017 #31

Wow.. and what else did he say, oasis? Cha Apr 2017 #34

Dr. Dean was interviewed about his tweet criticizing Gabbard's oasis Apr 2017 #36

Mahalo, oasis Cha Apr 2017 #42

Democrats want that congressional seat occupied by a team player. nt oasis Apr 2017 #43

What "shite"? She has the right liberalhistorian Apr 2017 #59

gabbard's Shite.. Assads History of Chemical Attacks, and Other Atrocities Cha Apr 2017 #61

No more Jim Trafficants, Joe Liebermans or Zell Millers. oasis Apr 2017 #64

She's the Steve King of the Left. Tortmaster Apr 2017 #91

Damn right! Dr. Dean needs to go away... he's so yesterday. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #93

Why? Gothmog Apr 2017 #98

Independent? LOL Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #102

Susan Del Percio says Tulsi is only "looking fo headlines" if she thinks oasis Apr 2017 #2

Yes shenmue Apr 2017 #4

gabbard use to go fakefox to accuse President Obama Cha Apr 2017 #84

She has been outed as a mole by Twitter posts HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #8

IMO, her overt actions have said more about her than anything else. nt oasis Apr 2017 #15

Not to mention her covert trip to Syria to meet with Assad. George II Apr 2017 #22

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Isn't that up to her constituents? Generic Brad Apr 2017 #9

No, because she met on her own with a foreign head of state hatrack Apr 2017 #11

I don't believe anyone in Congress knew... George II Apr 2017 #20

This was after her confab with Trump and her admirer, President Bannon? synergie Apr 2017 #33

Oh really? former9thward Apr 2017 #49

"Whataboutism" strikes again. oasis Apr 2017 #51

As does a non-answer.... former9thward Apr 2017 #53

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I would give a shit about Tulsi if the media covered the rather obvious point of the missiles Vinca Apr 2017 #10

For sure there was limited damage to the airfield and surrounding oasis Apr 2017 #12

Wag that tail. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #66

Hopefully it's just a "one and done". nt oasis Apr 2017 #68

As Carriers... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #70

Tulsi should go, but all the GOP idiots who do worse than her get to stay? OliverQ Apr 2017 #13

If the Republican Party chooses to keep idiots on board, that's on them. oasis Apr 2017 #14

This is a safe Democratic seat that should be occupied by someone who helps the Democratic party Gothmog Apr 2017 #99

Any Video? SnowScorn Apr 2017 #16

See post # 23 by George II. Earlier, MSNBC announced Howard Dean would oasis Apr 2017 #17

I love interviews to explain tweets HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #18

Howard Dean is someone you don't want questioning your motives oasis Apr 2017 #19

Absolutely true. VOX Apr 2017 #50

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Quit trying to smear Howard Dean.. prove he's a "Warmonger" Cha Apr 2017 #82

Here's Raw Story's account.. No different than Trump with Putin Cha Apr 2017 #35

Mahalo Cha. oasis Apr 2017 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2017 #21

The video is here, toward the bottom: George II Apr 2017 #23

"...these attacks on Gabbard"? That's a rather ambiguous way of putting it. Just curious... Hekate Apr 2017 #24

Why are you archiving... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #67

Here: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2017 #90

Aren't we supposed to support Democrats? Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #25

Yeah, that's what I thought. IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2017 #26

We can multi-task if a dem needs to be primaried.. Cha Apr 2017 #40

haha...now we can multi-task. Look, I'm going to look into Gabbard, I don't know enough about JCanete Apr 2017 #104

Not if one needs to be primaried for backing assad. Cha Apr 2017 #38

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gabbard gives assad cover.. she's had her head in the sand for years.. Cha Apr 2017 #77

I thought we were also supposed to be able to criticize them when they synergie Apr 2017 #45

Bullshit Jake Stern Apr 2017 #105

I guess you haven't seen the actual metric tons of BS here? synergie Apr 2017 #107

totally, but I think the people asking here were actually pointing out that double standard they JCanete Apr 2017 #109

Well, this is a nice illustration of the difference between bashing and criticism. betsuni Apr 2017 #62

Hmmm... radical noodle Apr 2017 #86

Her point was that US interventionist regime change wars cause vastly more suffering. Pablorama Apr 2017 #27

Oksana Boyco of "Russia Today" put forth the same talking points as oasis Apr 2017 #29

She supposedly took a message to Assad from Trump previously. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #39

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Given that she's working with that administration and is a favorite among them synergie Apr 2017 #46

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assad has been gassing his own people for YEARS.. Cha Apr 2017 #83

The fact that Nazi Richard Spencer endorses her should give her fans pause Recursion Apr 2017 #28

No kidding.. Mahalo, Recursion Cha Apr 2017 #85

WOW Gothmog Apr 2017 #100

The two most powerful factions in Syria, after Assad, are Isis and Al Qaeda killbotfactory Apr 2017 #30

Gabbard backed the wrong horse if she wished to remain a Democrat. oasis Apr 2017 #32

Chicken hawks know no party Pablorama Apr 2017 #37

I don't believe Dr. Dean is a "chicken hawk". nt oasis Apr 2017 #41

Which of the two Democrats are you bashing with this term? synergie Apr 2017 #47

Is That You Tulsi? Me. Apr 2017 #48

We've got our own regime change to deal with Pablorama Apr 2017 #65

Dr Dean a chicken hawk? sheshe2 Apr 2017 #69

No rogue Democrats. democratisphere Apr 2017 #52

get her a job in trump administration, then we can get a real progressive in Hawaii again nt msongs Apr 2017 #54

Trump interviewed her during transition. Apparently, she came across oasis Apr 2017 #55

This is all crazy. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #56

Then, who do you think did it "this time"? oasis Apr 2017 #57

Probably Assad, but since this risks drawing us directly into the conflict... killbotfactory Apr 2017 #58

Doesn't matter if it was Russia or Assad. They're partners oasis Apr 2017 #60

it would be better to accept the facts and make a case against war based on that JI7 Apr 2017 #89

No, there's more than "circumstantial evidence".. It's not "crazy" to call her out Cha Apr 2017 #63

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What specifically leads you to allege the evidence is merely circumstantial? LanternWaste Apr 2017 #95

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That's a strawman.. gabbard is giving cover to assad.. Cha Apr 2017 #79

Trump should make her ambassador to Syria. grantcart Apr 2017 #78

Yeah, we have so many Democrats we can afford to get rid of many. Jim Beard Apr 2017 #87

That's not what we're sayin'.. gabbard will be primaried Cha Apr 2017 #88

Hawaii can do much better mcar Apr 2017 #106

I hope so, mcar! Cha Apr 2017 #108

In Tulsi's own words FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #92

Where's Tulsi's tweet condemning Assad's war criminal actions? oasis Apr 2017 #94

She hasn't jumped on Trumps bandwagon like all the Democrats did with GW Bush's Jim Beard Apr 2017 #96

I don't trust either one. nt oasis Apr 2017 #97

You can disagree with trump without giving cover to assad.. Cha Apr 2017 #110

dont even know who she is..is she a dem and a warm body? samnsara Apr 2017 #101

Try reading posts #23#28#63#77 and then decide. nt oasis Apr 2017 #103