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oberliner

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48. My posts are in response to Tulsi Gabbard

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 10:06 AM

Apr 2017

I think she is an apologist for the Assad regime.

As to what should be done with respect to Syria, I agree with you that it is tremendously complex and that our military intervention is not necessarily what is called for.

Pretending that someone other than the Assad regime (with Russia's support) was responsible for the recent chemical weapon attack is BS, in my opinion, and that is what Gabbard is trying to do with her comments (similar to the message from other pro-Putin folks).

If she came out strongly and said that Assad is obviously using chemical weapons contrary to all international law and is responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people, but that the US should not get involved militarily for reasons X, Y, and Z, then I would not be raising this kind of objection to her remarks.

But, instead, she seems to be quite literally parroting the pro-Assad, pro-Putin propaganda (i.e. maybe Assad didn't use chemical weapons, the people fighting Assad are ISIS/terrorists, etc).

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Ok, Tulsi Gabbard; help me understand [View all] FDRsGhost Apr 2017 OP

In part because Hillary Clinton was in favor of military action against Assad. That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #1

Hm, possibly so FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #4

Just like FDR? Odd choice of screen name, if so. Hekate Apr 2017 #118

was FDR pro war? Serious question. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #130

FDR was very pro-war forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #167

I see what you're saying and that is true. Clearly he wasn't an isolationist when faced with JCanete Apr 2017 #171

Wrong. JTFrog Apr 2017 #49

It is insulting is what that term is...and untrue as well. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #72

Uh no nycbos Apr 2017 #90

I've heard that Assad used sarin gas too. That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #99

It's clear that Assad is a murdering dictator... Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #133

So Hillary's a hawk? How's that working out now? Hekate Apr 2017 #116

"a person who advocates an aggressive or warlike policy, especially in foreign affairs." ehrnst Apr 2017 #172

You should amend your note That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #176

You posted this as a reason people weren't fans of Tulsi ehrnst Apr 2017 #177

oh, I don't know....might have somthing to do with her defense of a genocidal dictator hlthe2b Apr 2017 #2

+1 lamp_shade Apr 2017 #3

Plus, she's echoing the Putin/Assad line denying responsibility for the chemical weapons synergie Apr 2017 #5

Okay but when is diplomacy akin to defending Assad? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #6

Reminds me of Lindberg, Ford and others in the thirties-- "Mr. Hiter was such a fine fellow", hlthe2b Apr 2017 #8

Can you show us please where Tulsi has defended Assad? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #9

You need to do your own research and education. hlthe2b Apr 2017 #13

I'm open minded, link me FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #16

Can you "google" Can you enter into "the google box" "Tulsi Gabbard defends Assad"? hlthe2b Apr 2017 #19

No reason to be condescending or a cynic FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #23

First pageL Tulsi Gabbard deefends Assad against gas attacks hlthe2b Apr 2017 #42

those are headlines.....not quotes from Tulsi virtualobserver Apr 2017 #73

Can you hit "link" and read the articles? hlthe2b Apr 2017 #75

the reasons that you only provide links is that those links don't support your position virtualobserver Apr 2017 #77

Your fellow duers have tried to politely inform & answer questions hlthe2b Apr 2017 #78

I have the advantage of being able to read articles virtualobserver Apr 2017 #79

You must be very proud... hlthe2b Apr 2017 #80

Let me quote Tulsi from one of your "links" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #81

Despite our own intelligence community being united on Assad's guilt... hlthe2b Apr 2017 #82

Another straw man - Tulsi never said that she believed Putin/Assad.....she just wants it checked out virtualobserver Apr 2017 #83

I don't defend war criminals, liars or those who try to plant stories on their behalf hlthe2b Apr 2017 #84

done with me because I have refuted your unfounded attacks on Tulsi virtualobserver Apr 2017 #85

Done with you because you defend a politico who supports a war criminal, genocide, & islamophobia hlthe2b Apr 2017 #88

my post clearly showed that what you are saying simply isn't true virtualobserver Apr 2017 #89

No your post did not do anything of the kind. Enjoy the hell on earth this administration hlthe2b Apr 2017 #91

Don't worry.....maybe if we just overthrow Syria....that will fix everything virtualobserver Apr 2017 #92

Damn straight we are. Cha Apr 2017 #109

There is no doubt Assad is responsible... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #151

So, just as the US and Russia are about to work together to attack ISIS.... virtualobserver Apr 2017 #163

Russia and Syria were both involved or so it is being reportedd. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #165

gabbard is providing cover for a war criminal-Why Tulsi Gabbard cant represent America at the United Cha Apr 2017 #108

not actually virtualobserver Apr 2017 #111

Actually, gabbard is giving a War Criminal Cover.. Dean has her # Cha Apr 2017 #112

Dean was being irresponsible. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #120

"This is no different than Trump making excuses for Putin. Weve had enough of this. Cha Apr 2017 #121

she was skeptical of Trump virtualobserver Apr 2017 #125

You're putting words in my mouth. You lose. Cha Apr 2017 #126

no, just actually quoting her virtualobserver Apr 2017 #128

Dean was pointing out the fact that Gabbard should know better. oasis Apr 2017 #124

Dean should know better. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #127

Al Qaeda and ISIS praising Trump's missile strike hasn't oasis Apr 2017 #131

Gabbard never said anything remotely like that virtualobserver Apr 2017 #135

Well, Howard would not agree with you. That's why oasis Apr 2017 #143

It is all in Howard's mind virtualobserver Apr 2017 #146

Dr. Dean doesn't have a credibility problem. oasis Apr 2017 #148

Tulsi is the only one who has been on the ground in a combat zone virtualobserver Apr 2017 #164

I know that poster is trying like hell to build a strawman.. I ain't playin Cha Apr 2017 #139

Yup. "whataboutism" is alive and well. oasis Apr 2017 #142

Oh Oh gabbard is protecting assad the war criminal for years and look what BS Cha Apr 2017 #182

Gabbard will likely lay low to assess the damage her public oasis Apr 2017 #183

Right, and, gabbard has been assad's mouthpiece long before trump strike.. Cha Apr 2017 #138

Kudos Cha oasis Apr 2017 #141

Aloha! Cha Apr 2017 #145

As to condescension, those defending self-serving politicians who white wash crimes against humanity hlthe2b Apr 2017 #44

Yes there is. JTFrog Apr 2017 #50

Uh, so ask a realing a real question is a fishing expedition? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #95

And what have you learned? JTFrog Apr 2017 #96

Quite a bit FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #98

Really? Tell me about "both sides" of the war FDR fought. Hekate Apr 2017 #119

What does that have to do with the topic at hand? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #153

Well I learned that when I was about five or six years old. JTFrog Apr 2017 #152

I have learned to use the ignore feature FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #154

Then why do you do it everyday? nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #157

I just Googled "Tulsi Gabbard defends Assad" That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #41

I don't know what Google you used, but I get 27,000 results. Try it without quotes. randome Apr 2017 #52

Why Tulsi Gabbard cant represent America at the United Nations Cha Apr 2017 #105

Just imagine the screeching and howling by many ehrnst Apr 2017 #174

How about here? Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2017 #14

Thank you very much! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #20

They weren't comparing her to Duke. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2017 #24

Well here is what gets me FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #97

Howard Dean is pissed as hell at her ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #17

Plus a bajillion Hekate Apr 2017 #114

Don't forget the RT interviews N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #134

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #173

I think people are actually mad that she met with Trump mr_liberal Apr 2017 #7

I think you're correct. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #10

You and mr liberal are both Wrong. like gabbard Cha Apr 2017 #122

LOLZ! KittyWampus Apr 2017 #26

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #40

Rightfully? tammywammy Apr 2017 #47

Meeting with Assad is probably when she went too far. mr_liberal Apr 2017 #57

What did you mean with "rightfully doesn't like Islam"? tammywammy Apr 2017 #58

I mean I agree with her on that. mr_liberal Apr 2017 #62

I think you need a different username. n/t tammywammy Apr 2017 #64

Liberals have to like religion and theocracy????? mr_liberal Apr 2017 #70

Tulsi Gabbard is a Hindu. she does not believe religion is irrational JI7 Apr 2017 #180

What a shitty bigoted thing to say. JTFrog Apr 2017 #55

Its a religion, I dont see whats wrong with not liking it. mr_liberal Apr 2017 #60

Yeah, I think a lot of things are lost on you. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #61

Now its not just Islam, its "a lot of things" lol nm mr_liberal Apr 2017 #67

I had to LOL with you even though it's not really funny. JTFrog Apr 2017 #54

It's entirely deliberate/ KittyWampus Apr 2017 #74

Shows what you don't know, mrliberal.. this was long before she defended meeting him Cha Apr 2017 #107

Apologist for the Assad regime oberliner Apr 2017 #11

Where has Tulsi said Assad is the "good guy"? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #12

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard 'skeptical' that Assad regime behind gas attack oberliner Apr 2017 #15

Thanks! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #21

I think she is spouting the Assad party line oberliner Apr 2017 #34

Who are the "good guys" that we should support? Or should America do all the heavy lifting? That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #43

My posts are in response to Tulsi Gabbard oberliner Apr 2017 #48

Does calling it "the Assad party line" prove that it's false? Jim Lane Apr 2017 #100

If someone was spouting the "Republican party line" we would criticize them for doing so oberliner Apr 2017 #102

I do not accept sloganeering as a substitute for thought Jim Lane Apr 2017 #110

How Tulsi Gabbard became Assads mouthpiece in Washington Cha Apr 2017 #140

Sorry, in the current context this is just more McCarthyism Jim Lane Apr 2017 #175

Gabbard led the charge, as a Hawaii state representative, against legislation for same sex marriage Cha Apr 2017 #179

Thank you for marvelously illustrating my point. (n/t) Jim Lane Apr 2017 #181

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #18

I'd like to not think that's the reason FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #22

It's not. You keep agreeing with post removed all over the place though. Good on ya. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #56

Not everything is about Bernie ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #25

Bullshit. We've posted the FACTS about her Islamaphobic statements, her love of guns, KittyWampus Apr 2017 #27

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #30

So transparent. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #31

Over and over and over... Squinch Apr 2017 #32

It's so transparent what's going regarding Gabbard on DU. I and other DU'ers KittyWampus Apr 2017 #28

I'm not deliberately ignoring anything FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #36

https://www.google.com/search?qTulsi+Gabbard&sitesearchdemocraticunderground.com Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #71

Hey thanks! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #86

You are welcome. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #94

++++++++++++ JHan Apr 2017 #53

+++++++ nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #59

I have wonder why this was even posted... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #68

I did but have found nothing hard evidence FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #87

Really...I found plenty by her own lips... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #93

It's amazing how concerned some people are Hekate Apr 2017 #115

You may wish to read my responses where I've thanked several people :) FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #156

It has been suggested between Twitter and the Dossier that she was one of Trump's DNC moles HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #29

I have no problem believing that. Nor would I have trouble believing she was another Putin plant. randome Apr 2017 #33

I'm not buying that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #37

No, you don't need proof. This isn't a jury. randome Apr 2017 #39

Mistrusted by some FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #155

Just curious, sincere question here: do you think FDR was right not to bomb Nazi rail lines? Hekate Apr 2017 #123

If she were a Trump mole she wouldn't have resigned. Jim Lane Apr 2017 #101

Didn't the dossier suggest that that Putin (rather than Trump) lapucelle Apr 2017 #149

The Dossier was all about Trump (paid for by R and then D) and how Putin supported him HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #150

I can tell you exactly what it is. Tulsi Gabbard gave a CNN interview where she said still_one Apr 2017 #35

Lobbying missiles at an empty airbase is stupid. So is apologizing for brutal dicators. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #38

The Curious Islamophobic Politics of Dem Congressmember Tulsi Gabbard JTFrog Apr 2017 #45

What is so difficult to understand? kcr Apr 2017 #46

For engaging in Reagan-era foreign policy of assisting or aiding delisen Apr 2017 #51

"Regime Change" didn't start the violence in Syria... brooklynite Apr 2017 #63

Fun Fact: Gabbard voted for the GOP anti-Syrian refugee Bill in 2015. brooklynite Apr 2017 #65

She is no Democrat. Not much of a human being, imo. randome Apr 2017 #69

Gabbard supports GOP bill on Syrian refugees Cha Apr 2017 #137

She has a world view that is very similar to Trump's. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #66

Because we all know how successful the US has been at regime change. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #76

gabbard won't admit that assad has gassed his own Cha Apr 2017 #113

Because people here need a hate target melman Apr 2017 #103

Because she has repeatedly promoted Trump. pnwmom Apr 2017 #104

Why are you always giving that lying sack of shite 3rd party voter cover? Cha Apr 2017 #106

Since you took Franklin Roosevelt's initials, I assume you know his war-history. Not a pacifist. Hekate Apr 2017 #117

And this has to do with Tulsi because..... FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #158

I think her position on Syria is very good. David__77 Apr 2017 #129

How Tulsi Gabbard became Assads mouthpiece in Washington Cha Apr 2017 #132

Gabbard: Syria's Assad should be 'executed' if he ordered chemical attack FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #159

Do you understand now? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #136

Yes and no. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #161

Still skeptical Pablorama Apr 2017 #144

gabbard has been giving assad cover for years.. Human Rights Campaign, Cha Apr 2017 #147

I don't have any absolute issue with her. Many seem to. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #160

Thank you FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #162

Several members of the alt-right are okay with interventionist government forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #168

She is not "alt-right". NCTraveler Apr 2017 #170

Because she's an alt-right shill forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #166

Calling an incumbant Democrat an alt-right shill? Seriously? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #169

This! obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #178