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In reply to the discussion: My thoughts on Asian doctor forcibly removed from United flight (VIDEO) [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)64. "its contractual obligation"
Have you ever actually read the contract constituting an airline ticket?
Here is the contract:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx
All of UAs flights are subject to overbooking which could result in UAs inability to provide previously confirmed reserved space for a given flight or for the class of service reserved. In that event, UAs obligation to the Passenger is governed by Rule 25.
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Rule 25 Denied Boarding Compensation
Denied Boarding (U.S.A./Canadian Flight Origin) - When there is an Oversold UA flight that originates in the U.S.A. or Canada, the following provisions apply:
Request for Volunteers
UA will request Passengers who are willing to relinquish their confirmed reserved space in exchange for compensation in an amount determined by UA (including but not limited to check or an electronic travel certificate). The travel certificate will be valid only for travel on UA or designated Codeshare partners for one year from the date of issue and will have no refund value. If a Passenger is asked to volunteer, UA will not later deny boarding to that Passenger involuntarily unless that Passenger was informed at the time he was asked to volunteer that there was a possibility of being denied boarding involuntarily and of the amount of compensation to which he/she would have been entitled in that event. The request for volunteers and the selection of such person to be denied space will be in a manner determined solely by UA.
Boarding Priorities - If a flight is Oversold, no one may be denied boarding against his/her will until UA or other carrier personnel first ask for volunteers who will give up their reservations willingly in exchange for compensation as determined by UA. If there are not enough volunteers, other Passengers may be denied boarding involuntarily in accordance with UAs boarding priority:
Passengers who are Qualified Individuals with Disabilities, unaccompanied minors under the age of 18 years, or minors between the ages of 5 to 15 years who use the unaccompanied minor service, will be the last to be involuntarily denied boarding if it is determined by UA that such denial would constitute a hardship.
The priority of all other confirmed passengers may be determined based on a passengers fare class, itinerary, status of frequent flyer program membership, and the time in which the passenger presents him/herself for check-in without advanced seat assignment.
Transportation for Passengers Denied Boarding - When UA is unable to provide previously confirmed space due to an Oversold flight, UA will provide transportation to such Passengers who have been denied boarding whether voluntarily or involuntarily in accordance with the provisions below.
UA will transport the Passenger on its own flight to the Destination without Stopover on its next flight on which space is available at no additional cost to the Passenger, regardless of class of service.
If space is available on another Carriers flight regardless of class of service, such flights may be used upon Uniteds sole discretion and the Passengers request at no additional cost to the Passenger only if such flight provides an earlier arrival than the UA flight offered in 3) a) above.
Compensation for Passengers Denied Boarding Involuntarily
For passengers traveling in interstate transportation between points within the United States, subject to the EXCEPTIONS in section d) below, UA shall pay compensation to Passengers denied boarding involuntarily from an Oversold Flight at the rate of 200% of the fare to the Passengers first Stopover or, if none, Destination, with a maximum of 675 USD if UA offers Alternate Transportation that, at the time the arrangement is made, is planned to arrive at the Passengers Destination or first Stopover more than one hour but less than two hours after the planned arrival time of the Passengers original flight. If UA offers Alternate Transportation that, at the time the arrangement is made, is planned to arrive at the Passengers Destination or first Stopover more than two hours after the planned arrival time of the Passengers original flight, UA shall pay compensation to Passengers denied boarding involuntarily from an Oversold Flight at the rate of 400% of the fare to the Passengers first Stopover or, if none, Destination with a maximum of 1350 USD.
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My thoughts on Asian doctor forcibly removed from United flight (VIDEO) [View all]
egbertowillies
Apr 2017
OP
New video from Raw Story with the poor guy covered in blood is even scarier
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#117
I'm not a fan of United's behavior, but yelling "police State" is uncalled for.
brooklynite
Apr 2017
#84
It is a "police state" when a 69 yr old Asian dr is knocked unconscious
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#124
In "the good old days" everyone seems to remember, you paid twice as much...
brooklynite
Apr 2017
#156
I would rather pay more...and by the time you pay fees and baggage and all the
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#160
The only snots are the people at United Airlines who didn't offer enough compensation
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#142
If only people were more like lemmings or robots, we would not have these scenes
delisen
Apr 2017
#42
The same crowd that justifies SWAT teams throwing flash grenades at babies because "POT IS ILLEGAL!"
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2017
#58
I think United acted like assholes...forcing people off a plane so their people could
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#59
One witness said passenger and wife were trying to get airline to pay for rental car
mainer
Apr 2017
#72
Most of us are (as yet) not used to such treatment and don't respond well to it.
Turbineguy
Apr 2017
#76
Plus they are seniors - he is 69 yrs old - Kick the Seniors off the planes first
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#123
he refused to give up a seat he had paid for and for which he had followed every rule
geek tragedy
Apr 2017
#17
One would have to look at relevant decisions on whether this is covered by that
jberryhill
Apr 2017
#91
MSNBC said good lawsuit for breach of contract because their was no over booking
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#135
The flight was NOT OVERSOLD - MSNBC said this was NOT overbooking but bad planning
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#136
the four people must have shown up late...I bet United is going to have to prove
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#60
Alas, I think some people and some corporations prefer muscle to logic and respect
delisen
Apr 2017
#43
Bull shit ...why should he have to leave? United's fault... screw United...I hope they end up
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#55
I believe the suggestion that "he cares more about his patients" because of Asian stereotypes
jberryhill
Apr 2017
#159
overbooking means cheaper seats and if the airlines follow the compensation scheme
geek tragedy
Apr 2017
#18
It's not even the price sometimes. I usually get to the airport early, and usually am by myself.
LisaM
Apr 2017
#33
United doesn't think enough of their employees to have seats permanently reserved for them.
Lars39
Apr 2017
#11
Should be considered a cost of running the business, instead of running Fight Club Roulette.
Lars39
Apr 2017
#75
or the oldest person on the plane or the oldest minority person on the plane & his wife
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#129