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KT2000

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96. that is the stated policy

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:59 PM

Apr 2017

but it does not say how the program makes selections. Obviously couples are selected first by evidence of this event. That might be an unstated policy or would they just take one from each couple? They didn't do that.

It would be good to see how this really operates - are these the only criteria? how many names are delivered - the exact number of seats needed or more? Are crew allowed to make selections from a list?
Are there no more categories of hardship?
If this man is a doctor did they ask if he was a surgeon with surgeries scheduled, was he booked for appointments months out, would his missing his appointments cause undo harm to his patients?

My guess is there is more to this process than the stated policy. By forensic, I meant analyzing the program that makes the selections.

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When asked to leave he refused.... the guy was and is a jerk 4139 Apr 2017 #1

Are you fugging serious malaise Apr 2017 #2

+100 TXCritter Apr 2017 #3

DU is bizarro world now. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #4

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i am not crazy about them either. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #143

Also shitty topics jeanmarc Apr 2017 #146

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+1 BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #9

Scary indeed malaise Apr 2017 #10

New video from Raw Story with the poor guy covered in blood is even scarier womanofthehills Apr 2017 #117

it is reported this morning that he sustained a concussion. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #152

Of course. A PoC wasn't compliant. That tends to get them frothing. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #12

Yep, and one is in this thread BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #13

I'm not a fan of United's behavior, but yelling "police State" is uncalled for. brooklynite Apr 2017 #84

It is a "police state" when a 69 yr old Asian dr is knocked unconscious womanofthehills Apr 2017 #124

It is a corporate police state where the corporatations are above the law. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #153

In "the good old days" everyone seems to remember, you paid twice as much... brooklynite Apr 2017 #156

I would rather pay more...and by the time you pay fees and baggage and all the Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #160

Yes I'm serious. He had a right to be pissed, but not to act like an AH. 4139 Apr 2017 #16

Yeah what an AH.. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #21

Yes he is an AH... his view he is tooo important to be asked to leave. 4139 Apr 2017 #25

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*SNORT* grossproffit Apr 2017 #106

Ahem....yeah exactly this! Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #132

We should all know our place and bow down before our corporate masters! athena Apr 2017 #114

The only snots are the people at United Airlines who didn't offer enough compensation pnwmom Apr 2017 #142

You're Dorian Gray Apr 2017 #150

Whew! Thanks for that, 4139 gratuitous Apr 2017 #22

Well said malaise Apr 2017 #23

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If only people were more like lemmings or robots, we would not have these scenes delisen Apr 2017 #42

What was he wearing? mcar Apr 2017 #44

He is almost 70 yrs old - kick the oldest people off the plane womanofthehills Apr 2017 #126

Horrible mcar Apr 2017 #158

The same crowd that justifies SWAT teams throwing flash grenades at babies because "POT IS ILLEGAL!" Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #58

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I think United acted like assholes...forcing people off a plane so their people could Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #59

One witness said passenger and wife were trying to get airline to pay for rental car mainer Apr 2017 #72

Most of us are (as yet) not used to such treatment and don't respond well to it. Turbineguy Apr 2017 #76

AGAIN, FUCK THAT FUCKING SHIT!!!! Foamfollower Apr 2017 #98

He got knocked the fuck out and then got dragged from the plane Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #130

He has a concussion. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #155

Plus they are seniors - he is 69 yrs old - Kick the Seniors off the planes first womanofthehills Apr 2017 #123

Amen..... chillfactor Apr 2017 #141

Why should he leave? jehop61 Apr 2017 #14

he refused to give up a seat he had paid for and for which he had followed every rule geek tragedy Apr 2017 #17

"its contractual obligation" jberryhill Apr 2017 #64

"Denied boarding". NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #71

Okay, so tell me what I should have done here jberryhill Apr 2017 #93

That's the airline's problem. NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #95

Uh, the plane wasn't taking off with two people standing jberryhill Apr 2017 #101

Flight wasn't oversold. geek tragedy Apr 2017 #82

This needs to be known sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #83

One would have to look at relevant decisions on whether this is covered by that jberryhill Apr 2017 #91

This wasn't an equipment issue. geek tragedy Apr 2017 #94

It was more than that... jberryhill Apr 2017 #103

That was the airline's problem, not his geek tragedy Apr 2017 #121

MSNBC said good lawsuit for breach of contract because their was no over booking womanofthehills Apr 2017 #135

The flight was NOT OVERSOLD - MSNBC said this was NOT overbooking but bad planning womanofthehills Apr 2017 #136

14 CFR 250.5 jberryhill Apr 2017 #68

But see 14 CFR 250.2A geek tragedy Apr 2017 #81

Agreed - MSNBC just said what you said - this was not overbooking womanofthehills Apr 2017 #137

That is really weird. I've been on overbooked flights Warpy Apr 2017 #30

According to the airline, the 4 seats were to be given to maintenance employees Tanuki Apr 2017 #34

the four people must have shown up late...I bet United is going to have to prove Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #60

They'll pay through the nose to keep this one out of court Warpy Apr 2017 #62

I am driving this summer. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #154

He was attempting to fly while being a minority Generic Brad Apr 2017 #110

And on cheap tickets because he'd been smart enough to book in advance Warpy Apr 2017 #112

Not only a minority - but a senior citizen minority womanofthehills Apr 2017 #128

Was Rosa Parks a jerk for not moving to the back of the bus? Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #36

Alas, I think some people and some corporations prefer muscle to logic and respect delisen Apr 2017 #43

There's a world of difference between Rosa Parks and this guy mythology Apr 2017 #65

How are they not comparable? NutmegYankee Apr 2017 #74

Given what we've seen at airports, directed at racial and ethnic minorities, Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #86

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #40

I would be a jerk too nadine_mn Apr 2017 #46

what nonsense. spanone Apr 2017 #49

Bull shit ...why should he have to leave? United's fault... screw United...I hope they end up Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #55

Fuck that fucking shit!!!! Foamfollower Apr 2017 #97

First this should be handled before passengers are seated... Kablooie Apr 2017 #134

I need you to leave this website... Dorian Gray Apr 2017 #149

Yes how dare he TNLib Apr 2017 #161

this was not random KT2000 Apr 2017 #5

Very true. I was thinking the same thing. Cattledog Apr 2017 #50

They were following the Hollywood disaster movie rules Generic Other Apr 2017 #51

He was the third passenger selected jberryhill Apr 2017 #67

I would like a forensic KT2000 Apr 2017 #85

The order they usually use.... jberryhill Apr 2017 #88

that is the stated policy KT2000 Apr 2017 #96

Okay, so... jberryhill Apr 2017 #102

they should ask why KT2000 Apr 2017 #118

"responsible enough to schedule their crews' transportation" jberryhill Apr 2017 #122

I am aware of flight disruptions KT2000 Apr 2017 #125

"beyond what most white American doctors may have" jberryhill Apr 2017 #127

You know that this ISN'T because of his race? Really? LibraLiz1973 Apr 2017 #139

I believe the suggestion that "he cares more about his patients" because of Asian stereotypes jberryhill Apr 2017 #159

I know that because KT2000 Apr 2017 #144

should have been the last to board, imho. mopinko Apr 2017 #99

You keep posting the rules, and that's fine and well... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #133

His wife was kicked off too and I assume she is a minority too womanofthehills Apr 2017 #138

Yep HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #105

Random, my ass dalton99a Apr 2017 #111

My question is why is it okay to over book the flight in the first place? kydo Apr 2017 #6

overbooking means cheaper seats and if the airlines follow the compensation scheme geek tragedy Apr 2017 #18

Because people buy the cheapest seats available jberryhill Apr 2017 #57

I have been bounced many times. Once, I had to take another airline Alice11111 Apr 2017 #61

How do you know he's a doctor? randome Apr 2017 #7

passengers around him said so mainer Apr 2017 #73

It was not an overbooked flight. randome Apr 2017 #8

Wow, you'd almost think United could fly employees on R B Garr Apr 2017 #15

Yeah, the other airline question lingers for me, too. randome Apr 2017 #19

Nice recovery. ronnie624 Apr 2017 #24

One would think that UA might be happy that R B Garr Apr 2017 #63

They could have offered a price good enough that a few passengers Control-Z Apr 2017 #27

How high, though? $10,000 vouchers? $100,000? randome Apr 2017 #31

You've made my point. Control-Z Apr 2017 #38

How did he "throw a temper tantrum" nadine_mn Apr 2017 #48

The point I have not yet seen addressed, Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #87

It wasn't overbooked. randome Apr 2017 #100

Overbook or emergency doesnt't matter. Ms. Toad Apr 2017 #104

It's not even the price sometimes. I usually get to the airport early, and usually am by myself. LisaM Apr 2017 #33

No, that is illegal jberryhill Apr 2017 #66

United doesn't think enough of their employees to have seats permanently reserved for them. Lars39 Apr 2017 #11

Greed does that to you malaise Apr 2017 #26

The obsenly overpaid CEO should pull some of that coin kacekwl Apr 2017 #54

Should be considered a cost of running the business, instead of running Fight Club Roulette. Lars39 Apr 2017 #75

They treat us worse than cattle malaise Apr 2017 #78

My flying days are over, but even 15 yrs ago Lars39 Apr 2017 #80

That is horrid and not handled well by security. PufPuf23 Apr 2017 #20

I haven't seen anyone yet rationally defend United's actions chia Apr 2017 #29

From the video I saw I couldn't make any kind of judgment. That's the problem doc03 Apr 2017 #41

Um no - that video was taken AFTER he was removed nadine_mn Apr 2017 #45

The video I saw I think on Yahoo showed him getting on the plane doc03 Apr 2017 #47

If you had taken that offer, you would have been a fool... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #147

This thread gave me the opportunity to add to my ignore list! Cattledog Apr 2017 #52

+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #108

Same here! athena Apr 2017 #119

What I've been reading here... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #148

Yep... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #145

I wonder if it was random...or they picked the non-white passenger. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #53

He was the third or fourth passenger selected LeftInTX Apr 2017 #113

His wife was one of the other passengers asked to leave womanofthehills Apr 2017 #116

Yes, because United is so "humane"... GReedDiamond Apr 2017 #131

I would like to know who the other passengers were... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #151

or the oldest person on the plane or the oldest minority person on the plane & his wife womanofthehills Apr 2017 #129

If I were the booted passenger, lapucelle Apr 2017 #77

I will be boycotting United ... period Greywing Apr 2017 #89

Fellow passenger: "He was a really sweet man." mainer Apr 2017 #107