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Baconator

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94. All of that nasty stuff is still on the books...

Tue Apr 11, 2017, 11:31 AM

Apr 2017

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

If your takeaway from the myth of Jesus is 'don't be an ass to other people' then more power to you.

We all draw out philosophies from history, culture and literature.

Just don't treat this fictional character as the end all be all or push your interpretation as the one and only truth.

Any modern progressive would also ignore some of the nastier bits from Jesus himself that I've laid out in other posts.

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There IS a War on Christianity [View all] NanceGreggs Apr 2017 OP

Great Post. When the world seems crazy this helps. delisen Apr 2017 #1

+++ agree iluvtennis Apr 2017 #55

Yes yes... Baconator Apr 2017 #2

Except the Pences and the Huckabees WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #5

I loathe the Pence family but am more familiar with the Huckabees. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #17

Very repulsive, and very deplorable. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #21

And yet are held up by many millions of alleged christians as the perfect christians. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #115

That's the point... Baconator Apr 2017 #18

Yes melman Apr 2017 #19

Is this the "whataboutism" I've recently learned about? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #24

You don't understand... Baconator Apr 2017 #30

I do understand. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #37

Choose the bits you like and ignore the rest... Baconator Apr 2017 #39

I'm not going to play your game. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #41

Makes folks itchy to think about this stuff... Baconator Apr 2017 #44

No, it doesn't. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #51

For some people Rhetoric is greater than Logic. GoneOffShore Apr 2017 #157

Choose the bits about what Jesus actually preached and leave the rest stopwastingmymoney Apr 2017 #42

Same thing... Baconator Apr 2017 #46

Did I say I was a Christian? stopwastingmymoney Apr 2017 #47

It was strongly implied... Baconator Apr 2017 #48

How about you just stop trying to stir the pot? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #53

I don't think you know what authoritarian means... Baconator Apr 2017 #81

Stop proselytizing. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #97

Like I said... Baconator Apr 2017 #104

I guess it's a good thing then Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #139

There's a statement that would be right at home... Baconator Apr 2017 #147

More Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #148

That's what we call projection... Baconator Apr 2017 #152

That's what we call recognition. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #155

I see you've progressed to the point... Baconator Apr 2017 #156

Yes. Progress. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #158

Is this that 'all beliefs are equal and deserve respect' bit? Baconator Apr 2017 #159

Wrong azureblue Apr 2017 #91

All of that nasty stuff is still on the books... Baconator Apr 2017 #94

Matthew 25 (the whole chapter) Bozvotros Apr 2017 #121

Welcome to DU, WomenRising2017! calimary Apr 2017 #22

Thanks. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #40

As a fellow catholic here's another one they can't wrap their heads around Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #45

WHOOOOOOO - and from the Old Testament, no less! calimary Apr 2017 #111

Recovering catholic atheist here. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #116

k & r LAS14 Apr 2017 #3

Well said! nt c-rational Apr 2017 #4

Welcome to DU, c-rational! calimary Apr 2017 #23

K&R brer cat Apr 2017 #6

I saw a photo of a wonderful church sign. Staph Apr 2017 #7

+100 narnian60 Apr 2017 #106

K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #8

Well said! bdjhawk Apr 2017 #9

Welcome to DU, bdjhawk! calimary Apr 2017 #25

Don't forget the ever popular... Baconator Apr 2017 #33

Careful. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #99

Why do people get so weirded out when you quote from something beyond the greatest hits? Baconator Apr 2017 #108

See? Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #140

Did you respond to the right post? Baconator Apr 2017 #141

Try to keep up. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #149

Definitely the wrong post... Baconator Apr 2017 #150

Now. Slowly. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #154

K&R redstateblues Apr 2017 #10

Jesus and Marx would have got on quite well. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #11

KnR sheshe2 Apr 2017 #12

Brilliant insight. New way of looking at the hypocrisy in large segments of christianity. Thx. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #13

What I want for myself -- I want for everybody Dorn Apr 2017 #14

Welcome to DU, Dorn! calimary Apr 2017 #26

Repugnicants version of sharing: sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #56

Well said. nancy1942 Apr 2017 #15

Welcome to DU, nancy1942! calimary Apr 2017 #28

Mahatma Gandhi The Wizard Apr 2017 #16

Tell you what melman Apr 2017 #20

Although Nance Greggs Is Perfectly Able to Defend Herself Leith Apr 2017 #27

Thank you and thank you Warpy Apr 2017 #34

Could You Tell That Leith Apr 2017 #35

Uh-huh Warpy Apr 2017 #38

'allo, 'allo, sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #49

I agree! get the red out Apr 2017 #76

+1000! mcar Apr 2017 #79

nah not beyond the pale- religions are a crutch to human evolution... snooper2 Apr 2017 #86

I'm not a Christian ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #43

Your writings are eloquent. sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #57

This topic certainly brings out a lot of rude people stopwastingmymoney Apr 2017 #60

Yes, it sure did. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #63

Are you just looking for a mutual circle... Baconator Apr 2017 #84

@melman, tell you what... TommyCelt Apr 2017 #101

K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Apr 2017 #29

amen! nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #31

Amen. notdarkyet Apr 2017 #32

TRUTH!!! Was just talking to a friend about this subject. Getting REALLY AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #36

K&R! Well said. Thank you, nance! lunamagica Apr 2017 #50

Ah, but True Scotsman .... MountainFool Apr 2017 #54

True Christians ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #59

Which teachings do you like best? Baconator Apr 2017 #85

The teachings of Christ ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #120

Christianity isn't just Jesus... Baconator Apr 2017 #132

I have absolutely no idea ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #133

Check again and let me know what confused you and I can spell it out... Baconator Apr 2017 #134

... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #137

The conversation continued after that OP... Baconator Apr 2017 #138

You finding characters in books, etc., NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #142

What is so difficult to understand? Baconator Apr 2017 #143

Where I got lost ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #144

Peachy for you... Baconator Apr 2017 #145

... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #146

The fallacy is also open-and-shut Major Nikon Apr 2017 #122

No no... Baconator Apr 2017 #135

Except in Egypt, maybe, whathehell Apr 2017 #58

Should we start keeping checklists? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #64

No whathehell Apr 2017 #65

If we did keep a checklist, can't forget to put "mentally ill", on drugs, can't get a girlfriend... ck4829 Apr 2017 #88

I question these words tandgf Apr 2017 #61

+1000 workinclasszero Apr 2017 #62

The war against the scourge of Christianity is being fought by reason. stopbush Apr 2017 #66

I'm one of those ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #67

No one is under the obligation to respect the beliefs of others. stopbush Apr 2017 #92

The discussion is about religious faith ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #105

Why should religious "faith" be regarded any differently than political beliefs? stopbush Apr 2017 #109

I fail to see ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #113

I'm not talking about alleged Xians. I'm talking about Xianity, period. stopbush Apr 2017 #117

I had no idea ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #118

That's a lame argument. I've read you at DU for years, stopbush Apr 2017 #123

Your idea of "doing better" ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #125

Of all the Presodents duncang Apr 2017 #68

Leviticus 19: 9-10 DetlefK Apr 2017 #69

I take people at their word loyalsister Apr 2017 #70

I'm printing this out to give to my faux Christian brother and sister in law when they come down Maraya1969 Apr 2017 #71

I was assaulted in the chapel by one of these "Christians" last year. kydo Apr 2017 #72

great post. K&R DesertFlower Apr 2017 #73

That is some world class gatekeeping you are doing there AngryAmish Apr 2017 #74

I think there is a war on christians Dorian Gray Apr 2017 #75

A lovely Holy Week essay mcar Apr 2017 #77

Just a question from an atheist HAB911 Apr 2017 #78

The people I've met who struck me as such.... moriah Apr 2017 #102

I'm not convinced Jesus himself would find any Christians acceptable Major Nikon Apr 2017 #126

How do we think Paul Bunyan feels about the modern retelling of his exploits? Baconator Apr 2017 #136

Beautifully stated. The bible says that too. They talk the talk but do not caroldansen Apr 2017 #80

may I share this on facebook? Fresh_Start Apr 2017 #82

Kicked&Recommended! coco22 Apr 2017 #83

Another really great OP Nance Gothmog Apr 2017 #87

as someone heaven05 Apr 2017 #89

To those here who state their antipathy to everyone who... LAS14 Apr 2017 #90

'No True Scotsman' fallacy overload. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Apr 2017 #95

K&R Yes. Hypocrisy is not a tenet of Christianity. Jakes Progress Apr 2017 #96

Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Moostache Apr 2017 #98

K&R ck4829 Apr 2017 #100

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians Martin Eden Apr 2017 #103

I've been turned off by organized religion because of the hypocrites in the rethug party kimbutgar Apr 2017 #107

BRAVO !! vkkv Apr 2017 #110

I wish I could hug you AwakeAtLast Apr 2017 #112

Thank you. NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #124

Corp jet tiptonic Apr 2017 #114

Amen to that! kentuck Apr 2017 #119

Brava! This needed to be said. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2017 #127

Thank you, Nance! k8conant Apr 2017 #128

One of the best posts I've read on DU. K&R! n/t Different Drummer Apr 2017 #129

I Totally Agree Left-over Apr 2017 #130

k&r n/t lordsummerisle Apr 2017 #131

K&R! gademocrat7 Apr 2017 #151

We do say so wryter2000 Apr 2017 #153

Beautifully put. dalton99a Apr 2017 #160