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The Velveteen Ocelot

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1. I worked for an airline, too, and never saw anything like the United mess.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 06:04 PM
Apr 2017

As a non-rev passenger I never counted on actually being able to board the particular flight I wanted. But I did have the advantage of being able to check on the computer to see whether the flight was sold out, the extent to which it was oversold (usually 110% for coach), and how many people were ahead of me on the standby list. So if all the seats were sold and there were people ahead of you on the standby list, you could conclude your chances weren't good. The only thing you couldn't know for sure was how many no-shows there would be. But if everybody who bought a ticket showed up, the extra passengers would have to be accommodated (bought off); the plane would be full and there would be no room at all for the non-revs. If there were more no-shows than expected and there was an empty seat or two, the people at the head of the standby list would get seats, but if you were farther down you'd just have to wait for the next flight, or figure out a route involving a stop or two. Guy I knew made the mistake of trying to non-rev around Christmas, tried to get home from somewhere in California, got as far as MEM and discovered the only way back to MSP was via DTW and then AMS. He managed to get to Des Moines and then rented a car...

Or sometimes the passenger list looked like there were enough seats but something else would come up, like weather. One time I waited around to be called and the gate agent started asking for volunteers to give up their seats (I don't remember what they were offering as an incentive) because the plane was overweight. It wouldn't have been overweight except for the fact that the weather suddenly took a turn for the worse at the destination and they had to board more fuel in case they needed to hold or divert. So I was out of luck.

I never saw anybody involuntarily removed from an airplane. Seems like whatever they were buying people off with did the trick.

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I worked for an airline, too, and never saw anything like the United mess. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #1
Yeah, non-revving was always kind of a crap shoot. Still is. trof Apr 2017 #5
I never even tried meal listing for any flight that was full unless there were several consecutive.. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #20
Wow, that brings back memories. trof Apr 2017 #23
Hi. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #24
Don't they have a few extra seats where the flight attendants sit? world wide wally Apr 2017 #2
Yes, but passengers are not allowed to use them. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #4
Wouldn't the employee they had to fly have qualified for one of those seats? world wide wally Apr 2017 #6
Probably not. Those seats are usually reserved for FAs The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #8
Cockpit or cabin crew would. trof Apr 2017 #11
I had read that the 4 employees were mechanics The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #12
OK, THAT would be unusual. trof Apr 2017 #13
It looks like it was a United Express flight, and it wasn't overbooked after all. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #14
Just an aside: I HATE RJs. trof Apr 2017 #17
My "favorite" is the Bombardier CRJ-200. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #18
My dad worked for United, retired in '84. Mr.Bill Apr 2017 #19
Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. trof Apr 2017 #7
I think you experienced KT2000 Apr 2017 #3
Yep, and we have short memories. trof Apr 2017 #9
Once they had boarded the plane it was too late Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #10
Welcome to DU, Voltaire2! calimary Apr 2017 #25
Thanks, and sure they could have found a price. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #26
Corporate arrogance and thuggery. moondust Apr 2017 #15
That is what I think too. The employees of UA are assholes AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #21
I wonder if you knew Richard (Dick) Fenimore... Purrfessor Apr 2017 #16
I always flight standby on United and will not list on any flight that has fewer than 20 seats kimbutgar Apr 2017 #22
We once spent 3 days in the Frankfurt airport, trying to get... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #27
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