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In reply to the discussion: There's a 25% chance your supermarket ground beef contains antibiotic-resistant fatal bacteria [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)50. Organic grass-fed beef is just as susceptible to E-coli bacteria
The comparative health benefits of grass-fed beef are well documented. Scores of studies indicate that it's higher in omega 3s and lower in saturated fat. But when it comes to E. coli O157:H7, the advantages of grass-fed beef are not so clear. In fact, exploring the connection between grass-fed beef and these dangerous bacteria offers a disturbing lesson in how culinary wisdom becomes foodie dogma and how foodie dogma can turn into a recipe for disaster.
Could grass-fed beef ever be afflicted with the sort of E. coli O157:H7 outbreak that led to the December recall? Not according to the conventional wisdom among culinary tastemakers. This idea rose to the top of the journalistic food chain in the fall of 2006, when food activist Nina Planck wrote about the bacteria strain on the op-ed page of the New York Times. ...
Unfortunately, the scientific evidence tells a very different story. Planck's assertion seems to be based on a 1998 report published in the journal Science. In this study, the authors fed three cows a variety of diets in order to ascertain how feed type influenced intestinal acidity in cows and, in turn, how intestinal acidity influenced the concentration of acid-resistant strains of E. coli. They hypothesized that these strains would be especially dangerous to humans, since they could survive the low-pH environment of the human stomach. It turned out that grain-fed cattle did indeed have a much more acidic stomach than those fed grass or hay. And sure enough, they had a million times more acid-resistant E. coli in their colons. ...
But between 2000 and 2006, scientists began to take a closer look at the effect of diet on E. coli O157:H7 specifically. A different set of findings emerged to indicate that this particular strain did not, in fact, behave like other strains of E. coli found in cattle guts. Most importantly (in terms of consumer safety), scientists showed in a half-dozen studies that grass-fed cows do become colonized with E. coli O157:H7 at rates nearly the same as grain-fed cattle. An Australian study actually found a higher prevalence of O157:H7 in the feces of grass-fed rather than grain-fed cows. The effect postulated (and widely publicized) in the 1998 Science reportthat grain-fed, acidic intestines induced the colonization of acid-resistant E. colidid not apply to the very strain of bacteria that was triggering all the recalls.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2010/01/beware_the_myth_of_grassfed_beef.html
Could grass-fed beef ever be afflicted with the sort of E. coli O157:H7 outbreak that led to the December recall? Not according to the conventional wisdom among culinary tastemakers. This idea rose to the top of the journalistic food chain in the fall of 2006, when food activist Nina Planck wrote about the bacteria strain on the op-ed page of the New York Times. ...
Unfortunately, the scientific evidence tells a very different story. Planck's assertion seems to be based on a 1998 report published in the journal Science. In this study, the authors fed three cows a variety of diets in order to ascertain how feed type influenced intestinal acidity in cows and, in turn, how intestinal acidity influenced the concentration of acid-resistant strains of E. coli. They hypothesized that these strains would be especially dangerous to humans, since they could survive the low-pH environment of the human stomach. It turned out that grain-fed cattle did indeed have a much more acidic stomach than those fed grass or hay. And sure enough, they had a million times more acid-resistant E. coli in their colons. ...
But between 2000 and 2006, scientists began to take a closer look at the effect of diet on E. coli O157:H7 specifically. A different set of findings emerged to indicate that this particular strain did not, in fact, behave like other strains of E. coli found in cattle guts. Most importantly (in terms of consumer safety), scientists showed in a half-dozen studies that grass-fed cows do become colonized with E. coli O157:H7 at rates nearly the same as grain-fed cattle. An Australian study actually found a higher prevalence of O157:H7 in the feces of grass-fed rather than grain-fed cows. The effect postulated (and widely publicized) in the 1998 Science reportthat grain-fed, acidic intestines induced the colonization of acid-resistant E. colidid not apply to the very strain of bacteria that was triggering all the recalls.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2010/01/beware_the_myth_of_grassfed_beef.html
And, indeed, there have been a number of recalls of organic grass-fed beef (google it). Same with vegetables ... organic spinach can be bad, too.
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There's a 25% chance your supermarket ground beef contains antibiotic-resistant fatal bacteria [View all]
Amerigo Vespucci
Dec 2011
OP
The Wired article says it is packages of ground meat. The Wired article also has a link to
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#14
There are no danger-free foods but certainly there are methods of farming
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#36
Don't eat out at places that use "supermarket" ground beef for their burgers
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#43
Let me put it this way - I have gotten sick from McD's, BK, and JitB but never from places...
slackmaster
Dec 2011
#57
I would no more eat a cow, pig or chicken- than one of my cats, horses or dog.
BeHereNow
Dec 2011
#19
Really? Who DOESN'T, if you have a family to feed and don't have the bucks
TwilightGardener
Dec 2011
#48
actually, I don't buy ground beef, only free range humanely raised poultry
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#31
Let's see, which is worse, more expensive food or a major bacteria infection outbreak?
Zalatix
Dec 2011
#59
There are also ways to make, for instance, a single chicken breast go a long way
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#74
It is amazing how easily we've accepted that killer bacteria is a natural
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#29
Just a couple of weeks ago, I ate some burgers from a batch recalled for Salmonella
PotatoChip
Dec 2011
#38
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Hassin Bin Sober
Dec 2011
#61
That's what I thought too. I love hamburger and eat it all the time. And I get mine
totodeinhere
Dec 2011
#66
The only representation I made was that I eat a lot of hamburger and never get sick.
totodeinhere
Dec 2011
#73