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eniwetok

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4. "won" in an antidemocratic system... isn't a true win

Reply to titaniumsalute (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 12, 2017, 10:22 AM

Apr 2017

The EC has no will or intent. It's an mindless, antidemocratic vote rigging scheme. But your point is well taken.

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Democrat's Core Choice: MONEY OR MESSAGE? [View all] eniwetok Apr 2017 OP

Good points. OrwellwasRight Apr 2017 #1

I suspect it's the corporate Dems who think they can make a deal with the Devil... eniwetok Apr 2017 #2

It's not possible. OrwellwasRight Apr 2017 #7

One thing to think about titaniumsalute Apr 2017 #3

"won" in an antidemocratic system... isn't a true win eniwetok Apr 2017 #4

I get it...but he's still sitting in the White House titaniumsalute Apr 2017 #8

sure... it's because Dems NEVER tried to reform our system eniwetok Apr 2017 #12

then we are foolish... eniwetok Apr 2017 #18

If you were to put a dollar value on the hours upon hours of free publicity FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #26

It was a mistake to court the same corporate entities as Repubs w 3rd Way librechik Apr 2017 #5

There is another thread castigating Perez for not sending money to Kansas...some Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #6

sure money may help but it's no substitiute for messaging. eniwetok Apr 2017 #9

"May help"? Come ON now. It measurably helps. And it's never been messaging or money. bettyellen Apr 2017 #11

what makes YOU immune from right wing messages? eniwetok Apr 2017 #14

That I wasn't blinded by hatred of any Dem in the primaries helped a lot. bettyellen Apr 2017 #16

did you even read my OP... it was QUITE CLEAR eniwetok Apr 2017 #19

We can have both in my opinion...messaging and the money needed for a win Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #15

red herring alert... no one said the Dems should broke... eniwetok Apr 2017 #17

This was the title of your OP...'Democrat's Core Choice: MONEY OR MESSAGE?' Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #20

So you didn't bother to read the post... you reacted to the title. eniwetok Apr 2017 #23

First of all I resent your personal insulting attacks. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #25

I know your game... and I consider your false accusations to be insulting eniwetok Apr 2017 #27

Oh it is a game is it? I have provided information that show your defamatory Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #41

I would just like to point out in case you miss it ...that Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #43

All you have are personal attacks and insults Cha Apr 2017 #32

PKB ALERT... and here you are insulting me and not dealing with the topic.... eniwetok Apr 2017 #36

Stop with your personal attacks and insults. Cha Apr 2017 #45

Yep...you can't win an argument...you resort to such tactics. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #42

Nope- you presented it as an either or choice twice- once in the OP and again in your bettyellen Apr 2017 #21

what's dishonest is to pretend my entire post was the title not the content. eniwetok Apr 2017 #28

It's not dishonest to say your frame was message OR money and you said it TWICE.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #30

They are happy. Some folks only derive pleasure in saying "I told you so". SaschaHM Apr 2017 #10

Hard for them with rules on this site...have to tip toe around it. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #13

Clinton had the money and the message. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #22

many didn't think her message was sincere... eniwetok Apr 2017 #29

Then it's on them. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #34

No argument from me mvd Apr 2017 #24

No argument from me either bekkilyn Apr 2017 #31

Are you aware that corporations cannot donate to campaigns or national committees, by law? DanTex Apr 2017 #33

it's somewhat irrelevant eniwetok Apr 2017 #35

Actually, it's entirely relevant. You're saying that Dems should refrain from doing something DanTex Apr 2017 #37

so NO Dems run PACS? eniwetok Apr 2017 #38

It's not a molehill, its a blatant misrepresentation of facts. DanTex Apr 2017 #40

So you think Democrats should not have pacs to get Democrats elected... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #44

Gee... why isn't anyone talking about INOCULATING VOTERS eniwetok Apr 2017 #39