The Nation article: we must transform the dem. Party

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97. Huh? Gerrymandering?

OK, introduce something new to this specific discussion. Who's arguing with you on that? Not me.

It strikes me that you are making a lot "empty" points with little or no substantiation.

How am I or other posters up-thread being hypocritically critical? I don't see it. Just saying that doesn't make it so, no?

What made up words are you talking about? No one here made up the word "corporatist". Keep in mind though that all words are made up at their origin. That doesn't make them illegitimate descriptors.

Re: facts. It strikes me that you are being selective about which facts matter and in the process denying others' their facts. Example: massive and still growing income inequality and a sense that the Democratic Party has not supported the interests of the working class underlies the chief concern of many posters here. Income inequality is a fact that cannot be disputed. Bill Clinton's approach to trade and welfare reform are facts. The list goes on.

You will have to elaborate on "echoing Trump's inanity and realize that their heroes are denizens of that same swamp" if you want me to understand your view. What inanity's specifically? What heroes specifically? Maybe you can convince me with the facts here.

What have I sown specifically that we've now, as you say, "reaped"?

How are my views "ensuring that it goes downhill from here"? How am I/we "complicit in the toxicity environment that delivered us that anti-Establishment outsider"? I don't get that.

Who's doing the attacking in this conversation between you and I? Please show me what words I used that are attacking? How are they attacking?

Perhaps we can both chill on the "attack" mode and actually have a conversation?