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In reply to the discussion: Why people 'vote against their own interests' ? [View all]Romulox
(25,960 posts)13. It's an argument that assumes its premise; in what way are NAFTA (or the upcomming TPP)
"in the working class's best interest"?
The very framing of the question is both self-congratulatory and utterly lacking in introspection.
it's that there's no one left to really make the economic case to them in the first place.
Indeed, they are hostile to anyone even asking about these issues... "Would you prefer Romney?" is the best they seem to offer.
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"These are the famous "interest groups" that take over the Democratic Party"
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2012
#2
I tend to agree that identity issue groups didn't literally take over the party. What i'd say is
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#3
Well we got HCR and Obama elected the first time. So I think it's working pretty well.
craigmatic
Jul 2012
#6
there's the difference between you & most people. corporatist policies & candidates = "victory".
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#7
Well give examples of how your way of thinking has won us anything at all recently.
craigmatic
Jul 2012
#15
i can't give examples re the party, because no such thinking or efforts have been made "recently".
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#16
Then what are you complaing about then? You yourself just admitted in a roundabout way that
craigmatic
Jul 2012
#19
admitted no such thing. i'm complaining as i've been complaining since reagan. you prefer
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#23
I have no master. I just recognize progress when I see it even if it's small.
craigmatic
Jul 2012
#25
I worked, for years, in a union shop, with a guy who always voted republican. No matter how many
demosincebirth
Jul 2012
#8
Republicans use this welfare cheating to frame the argument and gather up those who believe it then
Wild_Dog
Jul 2012
#31
I don't think people ever vote against what they BELEIVE are their own interests,
hughee99
Jul 2012
#9
Is having clean water and clean air in everyone's best interest? nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2012
#12
no. not in the corporatists' interest. if there's universal clean water, who will pay for
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#17
But eventually they'll run out of that. They'll end up covered in their own shit. Unless
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2012
#20
no they won't. kill the underclass, problem solved. the history of the ruling class is written in
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#22
Wait wait wait. You're saying if the water becomes polluted beyond consumption
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2012
#24
I replied directly to your silly little comment. Which by the way didn't address dick.
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2012
#21
I wasn't replying to the OP was I? I was addressing your broad brush comment.
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2012
#28
It's an argument that assumes its premise; in what way are NAFTA (or the upcomming TPP)
Romulox
Jul 2012
#13
they are completely hostile, and anti-worker. and the 'workers are soooo stuuuuupid' take is
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#14