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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Yes, many times, all the time. What this country did right
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jul 2012

was to support Democratic Ideals, providing for a long time, for the most vulnerable Americans, building a huge middle class whose standard of living was among the best in the world.

What I have not seen from you is a defense of the good this country is capable of, but rather attacks on those of us who want to preserve all that made this country great.

I do not support undermining the work of Democratic Presidents like FDR, yes we know he wasn't perfect, neither was Johnson, but in using the country's vast resources to provide for the American People, both those Democratic Presidents helped move this country in a better direction.

Supporting dictators, getting involved in foreign adventures, is BAD for America. Yet I have never seen you oppose these policies which are undermining this country's place in the world.

You seem to feel that supporting or loving something or someone involves turning a blind eye when they go wrong. I believe the opposite, I believe that IF you love your country, your child, your spouse eg you will not remain silent, or turn a blind eye when it/they are headed in the wrong direction.

I like how you questioned my 'loyalty' though. Not a very progressive thing to do from my recollection of history.

I hope I have sufficiently defended myself against any further 'have you ever' type accusations to the satisfaction of any future inquisitors.

For the record, no matter how much I have ever disagreed with anyone here or elsewhere I have never questioned their loyalty to their country. Mainly because I cannot think of a lower form of 'discussion'. You owe me an apology I suppose, but I don't expect to get one.

"..because our country is a peaceful territory committed to justice and truth” Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #1
So true. :( IcyMint Jul 2012 #24
Some info treestar Jul 2012 #2
I guess you know that any report on human rights by the US State Dept. on other sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #4
I knew someone would do that treestar Jul 2012 #5
The US still operates through its rightwing contacts sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #6
Ecuador is not a good place to hold up as the pinnacle of human rights treestar Jul 2012 #8
Actually most Latin American countries, now struggling to overcome their sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #10
However, looking at the Amnesty report, we learn treestar Jul 2012 #11
The US is much better? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #12
Indeed. Routine torture in prisons, massive numbers imprisoned, prosecution of whistleblowers, Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #14
Nothing like described in my prior post treestar Jul 2012 #18
Protesters in the US have been arrested for going to a Bush rally wearing sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #23
Joe Wilson could have been arrested in Ecuador treestar Jul 2012 #29
You're working hard to discredit a country which under the current president sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #31
There is power to arrest people who insult the President there treestar Jul 2012 #35
Ecuador's laws re libel and slander are similar to those in the UK. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #39
Nobody has called for his death treestar Jul 2012 #40
So you admit he is correct when he claims the US is attempting to prosecute him. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #43
UN Secretary General, Ban commends Ecuador’s efforts on democracy, human rights, environment sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #15
Amnesty is Wrong? treestar Jul 2012 #19
They are not infallible. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #22
But the US government is completely fallible treestar Jul 2012 #28
You said that, not I. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #30
Huh? Have you ever admitted this country ever did anything right? treestar Jul 2012 #36
Yes, many times, all the time. What this country did right sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #37
Meant to add, and ask, who are these police? The US funded ones sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #17
The US is at fault? treestar Jul 2012 #20
No, he has the power, as does any leader of a Democratic nation, to hold accountable sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #21
The POTUS does not have any such power treestar Jul 2012 #27
Occupy fared well in the US?? Are you serious? In a coordinated sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #32
I am merely telling you what the state department and Amnesty observed treestar Jul 2012 #34
Sigh, the 'Nato Three' still in jail, accused of terrorism sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #38
If that is true and not exaggeration treestar Jul 2012 #41
No link, so I don't know where you got that. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #42
+1 nt MADem Jul 2012 #25
This is a great interview Assange did with Correa sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #3
Thanks for adding the link, sabrina. I've watched all of Assange's shows. Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #7
Interesting link. freshwest Jul 2012 #9
Feinstein renews calls for Assange to be prosecuted for espionage. Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #13
It's a disgrace, really. Elected of officials, especially democrats, sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #16
+1 KoKo Jul 2012 #33
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #26
DU rec and a link you will probably find interesting: inna Jul 2012 #44
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