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Carter Page Went to Moscow With a Tape of Donald Trump Offering Treason For Hacking
Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that Carter Page went to Moscow in early July carrying with him a pre-recorded tape of Donald Trump offering to change American policy if he were to be elected, to make it more favorable to Putin. In exchange, Page was authorized directly by Trump to request the help of the Russian government in hacking the election.
A separate source with links to the intelligence community reported to me several months ago that Boris Epshteyn, alone of the four men named in the first FISA application, is an actual FSB agent, and, the source said, is the son of two other sleeper agents. Paul Manafort is registering as an agent of a foreign power; Carter Page has admitted, from public reporting, to have met with Russian intelligence agents.
It may therefore be surmised that Page, Manafort and Epshteyn, in this conversation wherein they discussed taking the Trump tape to Moscow, were all acting in concert as agents of the Russian state first and foremost, and Trump staffers second. Because the provision of such a tape to Putin would clearly be the ultimate in kompromat on a future American President (far worse than any sexual blackmail tape).
Page had always seemed weirdly confident about his relationship with Trump. He had the tape of Mr. Trump offering to change policy. Sources say that this tape was played in meetings with Russian intelligence officers in Moscow,
I will produce a short timeline of the Trump-Russia story on this blog tomorrow. For now, the point is that intelligence sources say that Page, Manafort and Epshteyn, possibly also with Trump, are on tape discussing how Page should carry a recording of Donald Trump to Moscow, offering his bona fides in exchange for Russias help hacking the election; and that the said tape of Trump was played by Page to Russian intelligence, possibly including Mr. Diveykin, the Russian official in charge of hacking the election; and that multiple foreign intelligence services, among them the UK, Germany and Ukraine, have a tape of this; and that finally, in October, the FBI was able to listen to that tape.and that several Western intelligence sources have recordings of the meetings and the tape which they supplied to US intelligence.
Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that Carter Page went to Moscow in early July carrying with him a pre-recorded tape of Donald Trump offering to change American policy if he were to be elected, to make it more favorable to Putin. In exchange, Page was authorized directly by Trump to request the help of the Russian government in hacking the election.
A separate source with links to the intelligence community reported to me several months ago that Boris Epshteyn, alone of the four men named in the first FISA application, is an actual FSB agent, and, the source said, is the son of two other sleeper agents. Paul Manafort is registering as an agent of a foreign power; Carter Page has admitted, from public reporting, to have met with Russian intelligence agents.
It may therefore be surmised that Page, Manafort and Epshteyn, in this conversation wherein they discussed taking the Trump tape to Moscow, were all acting in concert as agents of the Russian state first and foremost, and Trump staffers second. Because the provision of such a tape to Putin would clearly be the ultimate in kompromat on a future American President (far worse than any sexual blackmail tape).
Page had always seemed weirdly confident about his relationship with Trump. He had the tape of Mr. Trump offering to change policy. Sources say that this tape was played in meetings with Russian intelligence officers in Moscow,
I will produce a short timeline of the Trump-Russia story on this blog tomorrow. For now, the point is that intelligence sources say that Page, Manafort and Epshteyn, possibly also with Trump, are on tape discussing how Page should carry a recording of Donald Trump to Moscow, offering his bona fides in exchange for Russias help hacking the election; and that the said tape of Trump was played by Page to Russian intelligence, possibly including Mr. Diveykin, the Russian official in charge of hacking the election; and that multiple foreign intelligence services, among them the UK, Germany and Ukraine, have a tape of this; and that finally, in October, the FBI was able to listen to that tape.and that several Western intelligence sources have recordings of the meetings and the tape which they supplied to US intelligence.
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Carter Page Went to Moscow With a Tape of Donald Trump Offering Treason For Hacking [View all]
GliderGuider
Apr 2017
OP
It will be the biggest news story since 9/11. His poll numbers will plummet to under 30%.
Doodley
Apr 2017
#9
Remember him saying, "I have a very good brain?" What an idiot to put something like that on tape.
brush
Apr 2017
#57
I have to keep looking at the best case scenario. It's the only way to survive!
Doodley
Apr 2017
#17
Good Mantra Sage. Let's keep living in hope until the day comes when Trump is toast!
Doodley
Apr 2017
#62
Agreed - and the word is old Rudy will probably be going down within the next few weeks
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#105
Malcolm Nance was talking about how stupid they all were on Randi Rhodes's show a few days ago
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#109
"Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that"
lindysalsagal
Apr 2017
#3
Daily Kos - "Louise Mensch is not a Nutter, and she may be the reason why Biglygate is big-league"
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#100
That's all we get when NYTimes and the WA Post report their stories with anonymous sources.
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#37
Yes but in that case the paper rests it's reputation on the vetting of the sources
lindysalsagal
Apr 2017
#42
I agree that it's good to be skeptical, and we don't know whether this story will be confirmed
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#47
Extreme narcissism can make people that stupid. Failure is unimaginable to someone like DT. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#101
Agreed - I have noticed more broken English on this site in the past few days
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#102
I've heard a lot about Mensch being unreliable, but something about the specific details here
Fast Walker 52
Apr 2017
#15
it's a constant criticism of her from people who don't like her work without many details
Fast Walker 52
Apr 2017
#122
Maybe the person Trump was begging (again?) for help demanded the prerecording.
Cracklin Charlie
Apr 2017
#106
Per the Dossier, Putin and Trump had already been working together for 8 years at that point
HoneyBadger
Apr 2017
#25
Operative word there is "if" because so far there hasnt been anything to confirm it.
cstanleytech
Apr 2017
#36
Ya but you also have to be careful because not all "leaks" are actually leaks and none of us here
cstanleytech
Apr 2017
#86
She keeps scooping NYT, Washington Post, RM but somehow the confirmations never come
grantcart
Apr 2017
#116
Unless there is something solid to support this its just unsubstantiated rumor and if there is
cstanleytech
Apr 2017
#31
8 track and you have to use a pack of matches to hold the tape in place
SammyWinstonJack
Apr 2017
#40
If that tape is available, Trump is toast. If it is available, where is it? Otherwise, it's just
Hoyt
Apr 2017
#33
if this is authentic...game...set....match. And off to completely uncharted waters.
NRaleighLiberal
Apr 2017
#35
Didn't trump say something to the effect that it's better to use couriers to convey
shraby
Apr 2017
#52
Come on. Did you watch Trump talking about how delicious his chocolate cake was
womanofthehills
Apr 2017
#112
Sure, but what does that have to do with taping a message to the Russians?
radical noodle
Apr 2017
#114
There have been fake twitter accounts with her name too, with crazy conspiracy theories
wishstar
Apr 2017
#75
GG, yesterday it was reported by Claude Taylor that Carter Page had been turned
Mr. Ected
Apr 2017
#71
Wrong, Oct FISA warrant is for Carter Page et.al, so he isn't cooperating until after the election.
L. Coyote
Apr 2017
#81
I'm beginning to really like Louise Nensch. "So God bless America, and God Save the Queen"
L. Coyote
Apr 2017
#79
Although this would be major if proven to be true, I feel there is something else out there that...
Frustratedlady
Apr 2017
#132
Remember, the stolen election was by Republican TICKET. No Pres. Pence.
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2017
#136
In an ideal world, yes, but there is nothing in the constitution to provide for this, unless you
Amaryllis
Apr 2017
#138
This whole tRump Russia treason is unprecedented with few contingencies to handle it. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Apr 2017
#139
I find it difficult to believe that a billionaire would resort to these types of messages
Calista241
Apr 2017
#151