It would be nice if the far left, for once, did some introspection.

[Warren DeMontague]

145. Dan, you've been here since 2002?

Funny, maybe you're older than I thought I remembered you saying you are.

Anyway, since you've been here so long, surely you remember the arguments - and boy, were there arguments - over the topic of marriage equality.

The "sensible", "centrist", "middle of the road" people were in perpetual terror of 2004's mythical "values voters"- who weren't even that powerful in 2004, but certainly didn't hold as much sway a few years later (shit, even today you have self-assured overpaid beltway hair-sultants telling us our candidates need to appeal more to "megachurch moms&quot anyway, those folks were in CONSTANT battle with the "kooky, crazy, fringey, wacky, weirdo, pony-wanting extremists" who thought everyone should have the right to get married.

Eventually, the "fringe" people won.

Obama, to his credit, acknowledged that Joe Biden pushed him to evolve.

So maybe instead of insulting the people who prod us toward the more forward-thinking angels of our nature, we should occasionally thank them.