It would be nice if the far left, for once, did some introspection.

[DanTex]

248. Well I think they should be. Because I think that they could be a force for good instead of a force

for bad, which is what they are now. Again, your example of MLK illustrates what someone outside the mainstream with ideas whose time have come can accomplish.

And, insignificant as the Greens may be, they most certainly turned the 2000 election to W. That can't be ignored. It has had a massive effect on recent US history. Sure, in order for the Greens to be in the position to throw the election, a lot of other things had to happen. But still, the Greens played a decisive role there. Which means that it can't be argued that they are irrelevant. They changed the course of the US presidency, for worse.

Also, since far lefties tend to be intellectuals, they write a lot, which means they have a larger media presence than their small numbers indicate. Examples? Chris Hedges. Robert Scheer. RT lefties like Abby Martin. Some of the lefties on TYT. People who write for Jacobin or CounterPunch. And so on. Individually, sure, none of them have much influence. But collectively they do, particularly on left-leaning young people and intellectuals, who in turn go on to influence others. Then combine far left media with the Green Party, an organization dedicated to helping Republicans win elections by duping impressionable progressives. It adds up to a non-trivial amount of influence. And the sad thing is that the far left has positioned itself in such a way that the only influence it can have is in a right-wing direction.

And the thing is, the "both parties are the same" narrative they are pushing is patently and obviously false. And most of them are smart enough to know that. Chris Hedges, for example, is a Pulitzer winner and best-selling author, and he's no dope. He knows he is lying when he says Hillary and Trump are equally bad. Nader is no dummy either, he was well aware that the difference between Gore and Bush was enormous.

So, yeah, I think it's time for the Greens and their cheerleaders to cut the BS. I actually do believe that people outside the mainstream can make a difference, like MLK did. It's just sad that so many left-leaning intellectuals and activists outside the mainstream today are dedicated to helping Republicans. Imagine of they were on our side, instead of Trump's side.