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JayhawkSD

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48. Assumptions make people look silly.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:01 AM
Apr 2017

You certainly never worked in the steel plant I worked in, and I was talking about me and my coworkers wondering about that specific plant. I did not say that we wondered why workers everywhere in every type of steel plant wore plastic hats, I said that we wondered why we were wearing the hats in the specific steel plant we were working in on the days we were working in it.

The lifts in many plants may be traveling 30 feet above, but they do get hooked up lower before they are raised. They can break under high tension as they start rising.
And how is that in any way relevant to wearing a plastic hard hat?

You can get clocked on the side of the head by a fork lift.
In which case a plastic hard hat is going to do you no good at all. A steel hard hat might be useful if you walk into a stationary fork lift, but even a steel hat is not going to save you if you are hit by a moving one.

Metal being poured nearby can bounce and fly a distance.
Not in my plant; no metal was ever melted, as it wasn't that kind of steel plant. And as a point of information; liquids, metal or otherwise, do not bounce.

Rolling and milling machinery can break down and send parts and metal flying.
And again, missiles are not stopped by plastic, and since such flying parts are moving horizontally, what protection is offered by a plastic helmet?

When a cable or chain breaks, it can whip off to the side when there is side tension on it, as there would be with two or more points of lift on a heavy item. Even if a single hoist point breaks, broken chain links can go flying. High tension means high energy breakages.
Yes, I have seen them break many times, and they fly upwards and sideways, not downwards, so how is that relevant to wearing a plastic hard hat?

Workers do need to get up high at times to fix things, attach things to the ceiling even if it is only lighting or power or heating & ventilation.
And when they do they rope off they area under where they are working and have signs reading "Workers overhead, do not enter."

Stacked / shelved items can fall over or topple while being stacked or unstacked.
Indeed, and an item weighing hundreds of pounds (this is a steel plant, remember?) falling from a shelf is no more affected by a plastic hat than one falling from a crane.

A worker can be bent over fixing something at knee level and a worker can drop a tool on them they were using at chest level.
And if you are bent over such that your head is below his chest, the hard hat is falling off of your head. And if he can lift it and drop it on you...

Keep trying to prove me wrong, because that is the whole point of a discussion; to prove that I know more than the other person and that the other person is wrong, even when I admit that I have not worked in that other person's field of expertise.

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